I am in LOVE..........

[varsas]

garyhun said:

I really need to see a good demo of an LG OLED tv.

When I was in JL the Samsung looked superior which, according to people on here and online tests, should not be the case.

Different people have different preferences. When I looked the difference between LCD and OLED was night and day, at least as big as the difference between CCFL and LED backlit sets...having said that I haven't seen the K9000. I was comparing to the top end 2015 Panasonic, LG and Samsung sets. It didn't/doesn't help that the top end Samsung's are curved, where my preference is for flat. or what it's worth I thoguht the top LG LCD was the best of it's type...despite it having the hated IPS type screen (which I also like at work), so what do I know?

[anonymous-user]

varsas said:

garyhun said:

I really need to see a good demo of an LG OLED tv.

When I was in JL the Samsung looked superior which, according to people on here and online tests, should not be the case.

Different people have different preferences. When I looked the difference between LCD and OLED was night and day, at least as big as the difference between CCFL and LED backlit sets...having said that I haven't seen the K9000. I was comparing to the top end 2015 Panasonic, LG and Samsung sets. It didn't/doesn't help that the top end Samsung's are curved, where my preference is for flat. or what it's worth I thoguht the top LG LCD was the best of it's type...despite it having the hated IPS type screen (which I also like at work), so what do I know?

It's bloody minefield for sure

[gizlaroc]

The LCD will always look better under fluorescent lighting, and in areas where it is really quite bright. Hence why they always looked better than plasma in store.

It is what it can do when you are at home, with a few lamps on that really counts, and this is where OLED and Plasma really show up LCD tech.

[Patch1875]

gizlaroc said:

The LCD will always look better under fluorescent lighting, and in areas where it is really quite bright. Hence why they always looked better than plasma in store.

It is what it can do when you are at home, with a few lamps on that really counts, and this is where OLED and Plasma really show up LCD tech.

Gizlaroc, what's do you think of LG's non 4K OLED? Do you think it's still a wise purchase with 4K starting to filter through. I'm struggling to convince myself to spending 2k+ on the 4K version.

[gizlaroc]

Patch1875 said:

Gizlaroc, what's do you think of LG's non 4K OLED? Do you think it's still a wise purchase with 4K starting to filter through. I'm struggling to convince myself to spending 2k+ on the 4K version.

Yeah, I am not a believer of huge resolutions, don't get me wrong, if everything else is right, black levels, greyscale, colour accuracy, motion resolution, ansi contrast then yeah, the higher the res the better, but I would take a 1080 OLED over any LCD based display out there.

And at 55" you have to be sitting very close with some reference material to see the difference.


I had a good play about with the outgoing 65" model tonight, it is a very, very impressive display. Yeah you can see some of the niggles like the way it deals with just off black, but you have to be looking and it is no worse than most plasmas were imho.
Considering you can get the 55" 1080 panel for £1200 or whatever it is available for now, I think I may go for one of those myself rather than wait for the new models.

£2500 is about all it will be for the first 6-12 months I reckon, if it is £3k list. I'm sure it will be better, but the current one is super bright, brighter than my Sony W905, well my LCD will go brighter, but then the blacks look washed out, and mine has local dimming too.

If it was a 50" I would bite, 55" I think may look a bit much in the room where I watch TV.

It would fill that cabinet, and no offence to anyone, but I hate TVs that dominate the room....

[karma mechanic]

gizlaroc said:

If it was a 50" I would bite, 55" I think may look a bit much in the room where I watch TV.

It would fill that cabinet, and no offence to anyone, but I hate TVs that dominate the room....

But (just for discussion's sake) if that back wall was being used for a projected image you'd expect it to cover at least the width between those speakers, an 8-foot wide image might be just right.

On that basis it is a small TV

[gizlaroc]

karma mechanic said:

But (just for discussion's sake) if that back wall was being used for a projected image you'd expect it to cover at least the width between those speakers, an 8-foot wide image might be just right.

On that basis it is a small TV

That room above is no good for a projector, windows too big. Plus I have gone passed the age where I want to sit in the dark.


I have done all the dedicated rooms and never use them.

[MikeyLCR]

I was dithering over whether to go 4k some months ago but decided I preferred the full HD OLED, I went for one of these http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/lg/55... and am delighted with it, actually takes up less room that the 48in Samsung it replaced because it has virtually no bezel round the edge while the Samsung was massive.

[anonymous-user]

MikeyLCR said:

I was dithering over whether to go 4k some months ago but decided I preferred the full HD OLED, I went for one of these http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/lg/55... and am delighted with it, actually takes up less room that the 48in Samsung it replaced because it has virtually no bezel round the edge while the Samsung was massive.

I'm starting to wonder if that's the way to go for me too. £1299 v almost £3K.

[jmorgan]

New oleds due out soon....

[Patch1875]

garyhun said:

MikeyLCR said:

I was dithering over whether to go 4k some months ago but decided I preferred the full HD OLED, I went for one of these http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/lg/55... and am delighted with it, actually takes up less room that the 48in Samsung it replaced because it has virtually no bezel round the edge while the Samsung was massive.

I'm starting to wonder if that's the way to go for me too. £1299 v almost £3K.

Was in Costco earlier drooling over the LG OLED's the 4K one was 2.2k inc vat.

Can decide what get I think the new ones are going to be expensive.

[jmorgan]

jmorgan said:

New oleds due out soon....

Just saw the "due in" on John Lewis, add a grand for the 2016 models. Currys are being rather inventive with the existing prices.

[IN51GHT]

Curved screens? I just don't get it.

[anonymous-user]

IN51GHT said:

Curved screens? I just don't get it.

You don't have to - get a flatty if that's your thang

[nky_84]

I'm in a similar situation to a few on here and cant seem to decide between the UE55KS9000 and the equivlent OLED LG,something like the 55EG960V. I havent seen the Samsung in person yet, but the previous model looked pretty good and the KS is apparently leagues ahead. However, the LG was on a different level entirely in terms of picture quality.

I've heard concerns about the OLED's at this level not being quite ready for market and suffering similar issues to the early plasmas. I'm looking for this TV to last me around 5-10 years and dont want something that will need to be replaced within a few years. Are these concerns valid or should i make the leap to OLED?

[Cblair246]

nky_84 said:

I'm in a similar situation to a few on here and cant seem to decide between the UE55KS9000 and the equivlent OLED LG,something like the 55EG960V. I havent seen the Samsung in person yet, but the previous model looked pretty good and the KS is apparently leagues ahead. However, the LG was on a different level entirely in terms of picture quality.

I've heard concerns about the OLED's at this level not being quite ready for market and suffering similar issues to the early plasmas. I'm looking for this TV to last me around 5-10 years and dont want something that will need to be replaced within a few years. Are these concerns valid or should i make the leap to OLED?

Same dilemma here. Not sure if OLED is mature enough tech to invest in. As usual there's a few horror stories going round the net about multiple returned sets due to issues. I'm no videophile so probably wouldn't even notice some of the issues they have noticed!! I had hoped for a LG OLED price drop before the new screens came to market but there's not many deals going about?

[Patch1875]

Cblair246 said:

Same dilemma here. Not sure if OLED is mature enough tech to invest in. As usual there's a few horror stories going round the net about multiple returned sets due to issues. I'm no videophile so probably wouldn't even notice some of the issues they have noticed!! I had hoped for a LG OLED price drop before the new screens came to market but there's not many deals going about?

It's a mare for me also choosing thought I was going to get the non 4K oled but as I plan to keep it for a while not sure that's a good idea.

The new 4K lg oleds are out of budget so current favourite is the Sony 55XD9305 which is getting favourable reports on AV forums.

[gizlaroc]

Cblair246 said:

Same dilemma here. Not sure if OLED is mature enough tech to invest in. As usual there's a few horror stories going round the net about multiple returned sets due to issues. I'm no videophile so probably wouldn't even notice some of the issues they have noticed!! I had hoped for a LG OLED price drop before the new screens came to market but there's not many deals going about?

The issues though are banding and low ire noise.

Banding effects nearly every LCD just as badly, however it is accepted as part and parcel of LCD tech, and with local dimming etc. it tends to hide it during normal viewing.
The difference with OLED is the fact it should be able to have zero banding due to the type of display it is, hence why people are a bit miffed when they see it. (although most see it looking at fking slides!! rather than when watching content!).

The other issue is noise in the lower ire range, from around 2-3ire.
But every Panasonic plasma had this, and my Pioneer 500M had it pretty bad too, unless you are looking out for it you are not really going to notice it. And LCD simply doesn't show the detail in that area full stop, it can't, hence you would never see it on an LCD.
If you set up your OLED to come out of black at 3ire like and LCD would you would hide any noise in that area anyway.

If you sit at a normal viewing distance watching the TV like a.....well TV, the OLED will win hands down.

If you sit 2 foot from the screen showing slides you will find problems with any display, if you are that sort of person you are also the sort of person to go on a forum and moan like buggery about it too.

I think you would have to be a bit stupid to buy an LCD now, sure when an LCD was £1000 and an OLED was £3500 fair enough, but now we are talking similar prices it just seems nuts to buy an LCD.


4k LCD vs 1080p OLED is like a remapped 3.0tdi Audi A4 Vs a Porsche Cayman.
Sure on paper the A4 is quicker, better torque, higher BHP, but take them both out for a drive and I don't think anyone would say the Audi is the better performer.

It isn't about the spec sheet, it is how they perform that matters.

This is a 10 year old 1080 panel, I would still take the Pepsi challenge with any LCD you can buy regardless of price today with it....


Colour, greyscale, black level and a clean image is what makes a good image, resolution and being able to go bright enough to burn your retinas does not.


This is a Panny commercial 480p panel...

Edited by gizlaroc on Wednesday 20th April 12:01

[dkatwa]

I was looking at Curved but found the concave shape magnified things in the background....so I opted for a flat panel instead....

[MOBB]

I'm looking to upgrade my 2014 Samsung UE55HU7500 to a 65" flat TV with a significantly better picture than the 55 I currently have. The main issue I have with the Samsung is the clouding/haloing(?) of darks scenes

The problem is I would ideally like to spend around £2.5k tops.............Is there anything out there that will trump my Samsung now for that price in 65" size, or do I have to wait for Oled prices to come down?