I'm buying a tv tomorrow, need help to decide

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gizlaroc said:

What a crock of horsest.

That is one of the most ignorant comments I have heard, the difference is staggering.


And regarding the brightness, Calibrate the LCD and it is not as bight as the OLED, that I can guarantee you.

Calling someone ignorant because they have a different opinion is a bit hypocritical, no? Kinda loses the bite in what you're saying.

The context was OLED and LED in the same price bracket. Show me two very similar spec TV's at the same price where the OLED picture quality is staggeringly different. True OLED's are an inherently better picture, that I agree with. Not sub £1000 ones. Even at the £5k bracket the Sony LED with local dimming is on par with the LG OLED - to the point the naked eye will struggle to see the advantage - both will be just as brilliant.

And still, OLEDS can't reach the same level of brightness, I don't care what you say, it's a fact. As I say, horses for courses; what suits you won't suit me, just don't be a dick about it.

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EnthusiastOwned said:

Calling someone ignorant because they have a different opinion is a bit hypocritical, no? Kinda loses the bite in what you're saying.

The context was OLED and LED in the same price bracket. Show me two very similar spec TV's at the same price where the OLED picture quality is staggeringly different. True OLED's are an inherently better picture, that I agree with. Not sub £1000 ones. Even at the £5k bracket the Sony LED with local dimming is on par with the LG OLED - to the point the naked eye will struggle to see the advantage - both will be just as brilliant.

And still, OLEDS can't reach the same level of brightness, I don't care what you say, it's a fact. As I say, horses for courses; what suits you won't suit me, just don't be a dick about it.

I genuinely don't think you have seen the two displays calibrated in the same room, saying you can't see the difference with the naked eye tells me this. The difference is not subtle in the slightest.
Hence whey I said ignorant.


You do know what ignorant means?
I am ignorant about loads of things, purely because I haven't experienced them for myself.

If you can't see the difference then you are the exception.


I have heard this time and time before, when the HX923 Local dimming Sony came out it was a 'plasma beater', everyone raved about it.
That was bks, it was good for an LCD, but didn't come close to even an average plasma.
Then the W905 came out, this was meant to be even better, and to be fair it did some of the issues out, but it was still no where near a decent plasma, they simply can't do jet black with detail in the lower ire range when there is also other info in the higher ire range, the tech simply doesn't allow it. Sure the local dimming can trick you into thinking it is doing everything correctly, but when sat next to a display that can do you can clearly see what is missing.
Then there is the newer 4k sets with Local Dimming, imho in the areas where they need to improve they simply haven't.
Would I own one? Yeah.

Would I buy one over an LG OLED? Not a chance.

Mate just bought that 930V LG for £950 and it is stunning, better than any LCD regardless of price IMHO. It gets the basics right, yeah it does have sme noise in the 1-3ire range that you can see when you are a foot away from the screen, and next to his 4k Samsung LCD you can tell that it is not quite as sharp when viewing 4k against the same feed in 1080p, even from 9ft away, but just sitting back and watching the 2 sets everyone agreed the OLED was on another level.
And that is what matters to me, which set do I plug in, set up and then leave until it is time to sell it on?
I don't want to be fiddling for different lighting conditions, different sources, different material, I want to calibrate it and put the remote in the drawer. I have never been able to do that with any LCD display, I always have to have different settings for daytime and nighttime viewing, where as my Panosnic plasmas, Kuros etc. are set up and forget.


So I completely stand by what I said, telling people you wouldn't be able to tell a difference is a crock of ste, (probably could have worded it better I admit) sure out the box the OLED looks nearly as bad as the LCD, but once calibrated (even basically) the OLED starts to romp away very quickly, and the LCD looks a lot better of course, but it is when you are sitting down in a lowly lit room that you really start to see why OLED is such a great display technology.
I do think that most peoples experience of OLED vs LCD is in a store, where the gap narrows a lot, in fact LCD can look better as it can go brighter (but once you set it so black levels look OK it doesn't) and that is what I meant by ignorant, just not had the opportunity to view them properly.


I am a huge Sony fan, and what they have done with LCD is amazing, but if you get a chance to see the Sony 4k OLED it will blow you away. When they launch it as a TV in the UK I will have my wallet out.