Plasma / LED - why do people put up with it?
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Too many people are buying cheap model 55-65" Panasonic and Samsung LED TV's and the picture is not that great.
You need to invest in a good screen.
I also changed from Panasonic plasma but to a £2k 55" Samsung LED which is now nearly 5 years old, but I'm overall pretty happy. It plays 1080p brilliantly and I struggle to see much of a difference with most of the 4k TV's out there. I do have some issues, but the TV does have an excellent screen.
I'm going to change it for a new 65" Samsung OLED HDR TV next year, but waiting for the £3.7k price to drop.
4k is currently a bit of a rip off in my opinion and was rushed in. 4k HDR is the true standard and looks epic, much improved over standard 4k, and I feel for people who replaced good 1080p screens with non HDR standard 4k.
You need to invest in a good screen.
I also changed from Panasonic plasma but to a £2k 55" Samsung LED which is now nearly 5 years old, but I'm overall pretty happy. It plays 1080p brilliantly and I struggle to see much of a difference with most of the 4k TV's out there. I do have some issues, but the TV does have an excellent screen.
I'm going to change it for a new 65" Samsung OLED HDR TV next year, but waiting for the £3.7k price to drop.
4k is currently a bit of a rip off in my opinion and was rushed in. 4k HDR is the true standard and looks epic, much improved over standard 4k, and I feel for people who replaced good 1080p screens with non HDR standard 4k.
thebraketester said:
varsas said:
You couldn't make a 4k Plasma screen; not practically, anyway.
Funny... because you can (or used to be able to) get 4k plasmas.Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:07
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-plasma-201311133...
Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:43
moffat said:
I'm going to change it for a new 65" Samsung OLED HDR TV next year, but waiting for the £3.7k price to drop.
The 65inch LG 960v is £3,100 in curry's at the moment so they are coming down. I was disapointed that the 2016 modesl came in more expensive than the 2015 ones...http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertain...
varsas said:
thebraketester said:
varsas said:
You couldn't make a 4k Plasma screen; not practically, anyway.
Funny... because you can (or used to be able to) get 4k plasmas.Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:07
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-plasma-201311133...
Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:43
Best TV i have had was a Panny 42GT50.... the picture was sublime. It broke so many times and then we had it replaced with the same one... which also broke. We now have a LED panny.... no where near as good picture.
thebraketester said:
varsas said:
thebraketester said:
varsas said:
You couldn't make a 4k Plasma screen; not practically, anyway.
Funny... because you can (or used to be able to) get 4k plasmas.Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:07
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/4k-plasma-201311133...
Edited by varsas on Thursday 28th July 14:43
Best TV i have had was a Panny 42GT50.... the picture was sublime. It broke so many times and then we had it replaced with the same one... which also broke. We now have a LED panny.... no where near as good picture.
Ive got 2, a 50vt65 in the lounge, most people with lcd's seem aghast when they see the picture and its previous incumbant, a 42g10 (first of the NeoPDP panels) which has since been relegated to the dining room. Still looks great. Will be hanging onto these as long as possible as nothing ive seen comes close currently.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-tx-p50vt65...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/panasonic-tx-p50vt65...
Edited by Cupramax on Thursday 28th July 23:44
I have a 10 year old pany 42" plasma, top of the line, 720p model lol. Looks and sounds great, hope it doesnt die before LCD/OLED manage to improve..
Was watching some samsung 4k HDR curved 65" sets in the cinema foyer the other week, the IQ even on the demo reel was shockingly artificial. Perhaps they had bumped the sharpening and colours up to try impress people who glance at it, but if you look for more than 2 seconds it melts your brain, I'd get hammered producing photos of that quality.
Was watching some samsung 4k HDR curved 65" sets in the cinema foyer the other week, the IQ even on the demo reel was shockingly artificial. Perhaps they had bumped the sharpening and colours up to try impress people who glance at it, but if you look for more than 2 seconds it melts your brain, I'd get hammered producing photos of that quality.
toasty said:
I have an old Pioneer plasma 436XDE which were the dog's danglies back in their day and pretty good today. I think I paid about £2.5K for it back then.
Now, the equivalent for the same money seems to be a 55inch 4K OLED. They do look pretty but I'll keep mine until it breaks and then see what's about.
Me too, Cant bring myself to change it. Unfortunately i missed the boat on some of the last stocks of the Panny GT/VT series (work in the trade) Now, the equivalent for the same money seems to be a 55inch 4K OLED. They do look pretty but I'll keep mine until it breaks and then see what's about.
But have just removed a 50" Pioneer from a clients house who said can you dispose of it........... MMMMM me thinks that will be going up in my lounge as a straight swap for the 43.
Salesy said:
toasty said:
I have an old Pioneer plasma 436XDE which were the dog's danglies back in their day and pretty good today. I think I paid about £2.5K for it back then.
Now, the equivalent for the same money seems to be a 55inch 4K OLED. They do look pretty but I'll keep mine until it breaks and then see what's about.
Me too, Cant bring myself to change it. Unfortunately i missed the boat on some of the last stocks of the Panny GT/VT series (work in the trade) Now, the equivalent for the same money seems to be a 55inch 4K OLED. They do look pretty but I'll keep mine until it breaks and then see what's about.
But have just removed a 50" Pioneer from a clients house who said can you dispose of it........... MMMMM me thinks that will be going up in my lounge as a straight swap for the 43.
What's odd is that the audio world has its audiophile niche - that is well catered for. Low volume quality products. The TV world doesn't seem to have such a large niche. Maybe I'm wrong but there are shops who's sole purpose is to cater to audiophiles.
LDN said:
What's odd is that the audio world has its audiophile niche - that is well catered for. Low volume quality products. The TV world doesn't seem to have such a large niche. Maybe I'm wrong but there are shops who's sole purpose is to cater to audiophiles.
Wouldn't most people in the "videophile" niche be more likely to go for projectors in dedicated (ie, darkened!) rooms?I'm another with a 50" Panny Plasma. Along with a few others on here after I posted up the deal, I got it for something like £620 with a 5 year warranty from John Lewis price matching PC World. Is that hugely non-competitive compared to what people are paying these days for LED?
Monty Python said:
The new Sony TVs with direct LED lighting and HDR are probably the best screens on the market at the moment. The Samsung quantum dot is also pretty stunning but hideously expensive.
If all you've compared with are other LED lit LCDs then I agree.I guess some E or G series LG Oled owners would disagree
Monty Python said:
The new Sony TVs with direct LED lighting and HDR are probably the best screens on the market at the moment. The Samsung quantum dot is also pretty stunning but hideously expensive.
I'm considering a Sony KD55XD9305, very impressive picture quality and while I think an LG OLED had a slight edge on it, not sure I can justify the extra £1,200 for it. Bottom line if you have a plasma (Pioneer, Panasonic or Samsung) it's not worth changing your screen for an LED or OLED unless you're increasing size, the chances are you'll not get an improvement in picture unless you spend ££££. My plasma produced a better image off SD and HD content than pretty much all the latest screens I've tested. The only exceptions are the top of the range Panasonic, LG, Sony and Samsung screens with HD / 4K - they are pretty impressive.
Looking forward to Samsung and others making a move into OLED as I can't stand the LG sets, image is good with really good source but overall too expensive for an OK picture using everyday source such as broadcast TV or streamed media. And the menu UI sucks.
If you have to get a new set the same rule still applies; you get what you pay for. Just remember that the very best LED screens were never as good as plasma and IMO have only just caught up. OLED is the future, we just need more options.
Looking forward to Samsung and others making a move into OLED as I can't stand the LG sets, image is good with really good source but overall too expensive for an OK picture using everyday source such as broadcast TV or streamed media. And the menu UI sucks.
If you have to get a new set the same rule still applies; you get what you pay for. Just remember that the very best LED screens were never as good as plasma and IMO have only just caught up. OLED is the future, we just need more options.
I'm in the same boat; an ageing but still great 42" Panasonic plasma which doubles as a heating system! A mate bought a 55" Samsung screen and whilst it's initially impressive with brightness and colour, the picture isn't a patch on my old screen. Another friend has a 50" Pioneer Kuro which is simply gorgeous and the best picture I've ever seen on a screen.
I'm also holding off replacing screen until there's something which matches the quality of plasma. OLED seems to be getting there, has anyone tried Samsung's Nano Crystal SUHD which I'm told is also very good?
I'm also holding off replacing screen until there's something which matches the quality of plasma. OLED seems to be getting there, has anyone tried Samsung's Nano Crystal SUHD which I'm told is also very good?
Edited by Funk on Saturday 30th July 13:16
Funk said:
Another friend has a 50' Pioneer Kuro which is simply gorgeous and the best picture I've ever seen on a screen.
I have one of those, I was very lucky and picked up a cheap ex display model. I also have a much newer Panasonic plasma and although it is very good and handles motion a little better, in terms of pure picture(and sound)quality the Pioneer has it well beaten.Gassing Station | Home Cinema & Hi-Fi | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff