55" OLED or 65" LED TV...
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Yes, some are grainy and some crystal clear. The best BR film I have seen with the BV6, Denon 2200 and Panasonic 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player is Avatar - the picture is just perfect with so much depth of colour (even in MKV format). The best 4k BR's I have seen is Star Trek Beyond, Exodus - Gods and Kings and Oblivion. (Still have Everest to watch in 4k BR format)
I was disappointed with the BSG box set because at the beginning of the feature, there is an introduction by the producer who states that the whole series was filmed in digital format, meaning a clearer, sharper picture. This just wasn't the case, it is by far the worst quality picture I have thus far seen for a BR. I have BR's for older films like the Spaghetti Westerns and Zulu from the '60's, and they look pretty darn sharp. Even 1976's Assault of Precinct 13 is better than BSG!
I was disappointed with the BSG box set because at the beginning of the feature, there is an introduction by the producer who states that the whole series was filmed in digital format, meaning a clearer, sharper picture. This just wasn't the case, it is by far the worst quality picture I have thus far seen for a BR. I have BR's for older films like the Spaghetti Westerns and Zulu from the '60's, and they look pretty darn sharp. Even 1976's Assault of Precinct 13 is better than BSG!
Imdb says BSG 2004-2009 was shot on 35mm and Digital, so maybe it was that some of the early episodes were on film and later they switched?
I was tempted to buy Avatar. I saw it originally in IMAX 3D and I knew the BD was bound to show it off well. Might add it to the next basket!
I think I may also get a couple of digital animations like the Lego movie or Inside Out, as I expect they'll look good even if the plot doesn't quite fit in with what we'd usually watch of an evening...
Zulu was shot on Technirama 70. Not proper 70mm but better than 35mm.
This is a great resource - http://www.in70mm.com/index.htm
I was tempted to buy Avatar. I saw it originally in IMAX 3D and I knew the BD was bound to show it off well. Might add it to the next basket!
I think I may also get a couple of digital animations like the Lego movie or Inside Out, as I expect they'll look good even if the plot doesn't quite fit in with what we'd usually watch of an evening...
Zulu was shot on Technirama 70. Not proper 70mm but better than 35mm.
This is a great resource - http://www.in70mm.com/index.htm
Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Thursday 24th November 16:18
chris watton said:
Yes, some are grainy and some crystal clear. The best BR film I have seen with the BV6, Denon 2200 and Panasonic 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player is Avatar - the picture is just perfect with so much depth of colour (even in MKV format). The best 4k BR's I have seen is Star Trek Beyond, Exodus - Gods and Kings and Oblivion. (Still have Everest to watch in 4k BR format)
I was disappointed with the BSG box set because at the beginning of the feature, there is an introduction by the producer who states that the whole series was filmed in digital format, meaning a clearer, sharper picture. This just wasn't the case, it is by far the worst quality picture I have thus far seen for a BR. I have BR's for older films like the Spaghetti Westerns and Zulu from the '60's, and they look pretty darn sharp. Even 1976's Assault of Precinct 13 is better than BSG!
Best BluRay I've seen on my OLED is 'Birdman', worst is 'The 13th Floor', which is only slightly better than the DVD (I have both, the DVD was hardly reference).I was disappointed with the BSG box set because at the beginning of the feature, there is an introduction by the producer who states that the whole series was filmed in digital format, meaning a clearer, sharper picture. This just wasn't the case, it is by far the worst quality picture I have thus far seen for a BR. I have BR's for older films like the Spaghetti Westerns and Zulu from the '60's, and they look pretty darn sharp. Even 1976's Assault of Precinct 13 is better than BSG!
I know alot of the studios have said they need to buy bigger panels when doing the transfers. problem is many are using the 40" Sony Oled displays, and they keep adding grain to make it look more film like, however, what looks great on a 40" screen can look very overdone when you get to a 55 or 65" screen.
Well, my 65C6V is now attached to the wall. Minor issue when I discovered that my HDMI cable was too short, but fortunately found a longer one free.
First impressions :
The difference in size between my 72" projector image and the TV is bigger than I expected - the projector image was about 10" wider and 6" taller. I certainly won't be using the projector now since the TV image is a whole different league. Whether I'll decide in future I want a 4k projector when the prices are more sensible, I'm not sure but I think I'll probably find the tv is enough.
Image quality is as stunning as I expected.
PS4 image is also fabulous - left it in ISF dark mode, and didn't have any lag problems on DS3.
SD image.. Isn't, but is acceptable.
I even tried enabling 3D on 2D a feed, and it really did a pretty good job much to my surprise. Having thought I would never use it, if there are and 3D films on Netflix I'd probably give them a go.
Overall, very happy so far. About to reprogramme my harmony, then send down for a film.
First impressions :
The difference in size between my 72" projector image and the TV is bigger than I expected - the projector image was about 10" wider and 6" taller. I certainly won't be using the projector now since the TV image is a whole different league. Whether I'll decide in future I want a 4k projector when the prices are more sensible, I'm not sure but I think I'll probably find the tv is enough.
Image quality is as stunning as I expected.
PS4 image is also fabulous - left it in ISF dark mode, and didn't have any lag problems on DS3.
SD image.. Isn't, but is acceptable.
I even tried enabling 3D on 2D a feed, and it really did a pretty good job much to my surprise. Having thought I would never use it, if there are and 3D films on Netflix I'd probably give them a go.
Overall, very happy so far. About to reprogramme my harmony, then send down for a film.
I was aware that the OLEDs can have judder, although my understanding was that the 2016 sets were much better than the 2015s.
Last night, I didn't notice any issues however I've just started watching episode 2 of Narcos series 1 since I wanted to try a 4k stream.
Near the start, the cop is flying over the Amazon and the narrator is saying that Pablo "built superlabs the size of small cities". As he says this, the camera pans to a wooden building with pallets stacked with drugs outside.
The judder on the stacks of white packages was absolutely shocking. By default, the ISF modes have motion smoothing off, but I've changed it to use setting with de-judder set to 5 - could maybe get away with 4 but any less is still quite noticeable.
I don't know if it's unlucky and the panning speed was just the worst the TV could cope with but I'm surprised at just how bad it was.
ETA: TV did a firmware update this morning so is up to date. Maybe that made it worse!
Last night, I didn't notice any issues however I've just started watching episode 2 of Narcos series 1 since I wanted to try a 4k stream.
Near the start, the cop is flying over the Amazon and the narrator is saying that Pablo "built superlabs the size of small cities". As he says this, the camera pans to a wooden building with pallets stacked with drugs outside.
The judder on the stacks of white packages was absolutely shocking. By default, the ISF modes have motion smoothing off, but I've changed it to use setting with de-judder set to 5 - could maybe get away with 4 but any less is still quite noticeable.
I don't know if it's unlucky and the panning speed was just the worst the TV could cope with but I'm surprised at just how bad it was.
ETA: TV did a firmware update this morning so is up to date. Maybe that made it worse!
Edited by davek_964 on Saturday 26th November 11:26
Thinking about it, one or twi scenes in Marco Polo do it yet there are more challenging scenes for a compression method either side of that scene. I still put it down to to the supply, 1080p off a disk is flawless.
Speaking of which, where are the 4k player deals? Damn their eyes. Oppo looks like a potential, Sony looks like it is going to release something that is going to be very pricy but that is next year. Might have to be the Pannasonic.
Speaking of which, where are the 4k player deals? Damn their eyes. Oppo looks like a potential, Sony looks like it is going to release something that is going to be very pricy but that is next year. Might have to be the Pannasonic.
chris watton said:
I get that very occasionally on Netflix, but I have never seen it during BR/4k BR or MKV file playback, so I always assumed it was down to streaming.
Me too, iPlayer is better from my Samsung 4k player's app than the TV's in-built one because of it. Not noticed it on Amazon prime video 4k or 1080p. 55EF950V.gizlaroc said:
Have you set the TV for 24p on Netflix?
If not you are converting back to 60hz on the 25 which will cause nasty judder.
I can't see how to do that unless it's done by one of the picture modes? I tried cinema mode - that defaults to 'clear' motion and that setting send OK, but as you as you switch it off the judder is back.If not you are converting back to 60hz on the 25 which will cause nasty judder.
Setting 5 seems to work without any downside I've noticed so far.
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