55" OLED or 65" LED TV...

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Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.

legzr1

3,843 posts

138 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Digitalize said:
Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.
This is exactly what I was going to reply in a post earlier (leggy?) - if the sole source is going to be 1080i from Sky, especially some of the atrocious content downloadable from Cinema then OLED can and does rip it apart.

Personally, I put up with it because of what OLED can do with a clean feed, bluray, 4K streams and UHD discs.

If I wasn't interested in the better quality video available I'd have saved a fortune and gone for LCD not because it handles crap any better, just its easier to watch having paid nearer £300 than £3K!

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Any TV that can properly render the brightness spectrum, especially when it comes to near black will show the compression artifacts, if an LCD TV is close to it then they'll also show the problem, my parents Panasonic VT65 Plasma also does it. You could crush the blacks to hide this if you were particularly worried about it, but as I know what the issue is it doesn't bother me.

Similarly digital noise and even film based noise can be more noticeable also, some people choose to use some noise reduction on the TV, but again it doesn't bother me, perhaps because I am a photographer/videographer by trade and understand what I'm seeing, whereas my father complains and thinks there is something wrong. I suppose there is, but it's down the to source not the TV!

legzr1

3,843 posts

138 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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Yep and reminds me of decent hi-if and HT systems being fed low bitrate MP3 - what sounds passable through headphones on a noisy bus suddenly turns into something terrible.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I think the most annoying thing for me is that the Amazon Prime app uses low quality splash screens, backgrounds and even thumbnails, but that's nothing to do with the TV itself, just one reason why I vastly prefer using Netflix.

bighop

138 posts

96 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Had a walk into Currys today today to convince myself I need the 55" OLED in my life. I had no intention of ever buying the set there and the salesman did nothing to alter my choice. Apparently if I didn't buy it today it would be £500 more this time next week and I should pull the trigger (his words) now and get it on the pay nothing for six months deal. What a tt. I wouldn't give him the steam off my piss and I'll buy outright elsewhere next week when my room is ready.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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The 2017 prices start next week and the B6 is increasing by £500.







Just kidding! biggrin

bighop

138 posts

96 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Haha, he was well annoying. I can't believe anyone spending a decent amount of cash on a TV would listen to the ste he was spouting. The helpful folk in this thread are for more informative than he could ever hope to be.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Not only Currys flog these things. They upped the price by a shed load (£1000??) for the 950 last year just before the new models came in then dropped the price again. Probably so they could say it was a sale price or something.

Get the best warranty as well, cheapest price is not necessarily the best deal. I understand that buying it online gives you some chance to return if it is a duff panel.

But look at as many as you can, just so you are happy with it. Some prefer LED, horses for courses.

Zingari

902 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Digitalize said:
Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering what those 'contour' lines were on dark backgrounds. It still wouldn't force me to chnage from OLED though.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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It's also a slightly inherent problem of displaying 8-bit content on a 10-bit panel. It can display so much more information than what it's being given.

bighop

138 posts

96 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Just set the OLED up. My word even with the out the box settings it's immense.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Wait till you get your eye on some basic setting, this is before you get a calibration (not bothered myself).

Then get a 4k player. Mad Max is superb though the opening scene is grainy for some reason.

Nimby

4,572 posts

149 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.



Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Nimby said:
I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
When new some of the best Plasma's could do what was almost completely black, as they age their black level slowly rises. The fact that they're grey when off doesn't really effect what black they could reproduce, as it was their ability when on to block the light being emitted, as they would have a backlight still.

Funk

26,254 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Nimby said:
I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
I nearly went for that screen (also coming from a Panasonic 42" plasma). I couldn't quite justify the extra cash and went with the Sony XD93 55" and £550 saving... That LG is a stunning screen though!

bodhi

10,333 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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We've recently bought a new telly and had a look at the LG OLED and the Sony XD93, and we really did struggle to justify the extra for the OLED model. Blacks were impressive on the LG, but the colours looked garish and forced on it, whilst being much more natural on the Sony. They Sony seemed that little bit sharper as well - no doubt a dodgy feed to the LG in Currys.

Although we did end up spending the extra after all, after I suggested we should look at the 65" model....had it a week now and it's been absolutely superb - 4K HDR on it is absolutely stunning. For instance in the GT when Clarkson takes the Aston across Italy, on the old TV we were struggling to see where the brown/orange coments were coming from, as it mostly looked red. Watch it in HDR and - oh yes, it's brown smile

Funk

26,254 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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I couldn't quite reconcile the extra spend, and the Sony's upscaling is excellent which was a factor for me. HDR 4K on the Sony is also incredible but the colours are a little more natural to my eye. Bottom line is I think anyone would struggle to be disappointed with either screen.

Thing is, even coming from a 42" up to a 55", I keep looking at it and thinking, "Hmm...I could have got away with a 65" there...!"

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Reading the front page of AV Forums and they have a review of a see through OLED....

swisstoni

16,845 posts

278 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Think I read where OLED will eventually be used architecturally. For instance you could have a glass office wall that could be made opaque at the press of a button.