55" OLED or 65" LED TV...
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Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.
Digitalize said:
Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.
This is exactly what I was going to reply in a post earlier (leggy?) - if the sole source is going to be 1080i from Sky, especially some of the atrocious content downloadable from Cinema then OLED can and does rip it apart.Personally, I put up with it because of what OLED can do with a clean feed, bluray, 4K streams and UHD discs.
If I wasn't interested in the better quality video available I'd have saved a fortune and gone for LCD not because it handles crap any better, just its easier to watch having paid nearer £300 than £3K!
Any TV that can properly render the brightness spectrum, especially when it comes to near black will show the compression artifacts, if an LCD TV is close to it then they'll also show the problem, my parents Panasonic VT65 Plasma also does it. You could crush the blacks to hide this if you were particularly worried about it, but as I know what the issue is it doesn't bother me.
Similarly digital noise and even film based noise can be more noticeable also, some people choose to use some noise reduction on the TV, but again it doesn't bother me, perhaps because I am a photographer/videographer by trade and understand what I'm seeing, whereas my father complains and thinks there is something wrong. I suppose there is, but it's down the to source not the TV!
Similarly digital noise and even film based noise can be more noticeable also, some people choose to use some noise reduction on the TV, but again it doesn't bother me, perhaps because I am a photographer/videographer by trade and understand what I'm seeing, whereas my father complains and thinks there is something wrong. I suppose there is, but it's down the to source not the TV!
Had a walk into Currys today today to convince myself I need the 55" OLED in my life. I had no intention of ever buying the set there and the salesman did nothing to alter my choice. Apparently if I didn't buy it today it would be £500 more this time next week and I should pull the trigger (his words) now and get it on the pay nothing for six months deal. What a tt. I wouldn't give him the steam off my piss and I'll buy outright elsewhere next week when my room is ready.
Not only Currys flog these things. They upped the price by a shed load (£1000??) for the 950 last year just before the new models came in then dropped the price again. Probably so they could say it was a sale price or something.
Get the best warranty as well, cheapest price is not necessarily the best deal. I understand that buying it online gives you some chance to return if it is a duff panel.
But look at as many as you can, just so you are happy with it. Some prefer LED, horses for courses.
Get the best warranty as well, cheapest price is not necessarily the best deal. I understand that buying it online gives you some chance to return if it is a duff panel.
But look at as many as you can, just so you are happy with it. Some prefer LED, horses for courses.
Digitalize said:
Only problem with OLED I have found so far is that it really shows off the catastrophic compression some broadcasters use, especially BBC, watching Taboo which is a lot of dark scenes was evident how much they've compressed it, with black area artifacts and banding I haven't seen since DVD piracy first kicked off and everyone was making films 700mb to fit on a CD.
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering what those 'contour' lines were on dark backgrounds. It still wouldn't force me to chnage from OLED though.I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
Nimby said:
I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
When new some of the best Plasma's could do what was almost completely black, as they age their black level slowly rises. The fact that they're grey when off doesn't really effect what black they could reproduce, as it was their ability when on to block the light being emitted, as they would have a backlight still.The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
Nimby said:
I just replaced our Panasonic 42" plasma with an LG OLED55B6V and it's a huge improvement even though the Panny was faultless. I don't see why people raved about the blacks on a plasma screen - it's grey when switched off so it can't really be black when on.
The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
I nearly went for that screen (also coming from a Panasonic 42" plasma). I couldn't quite justify the extra cash and went with the Sony XD93 55" and £550 saving... That LG is a stunning screen though!The OLED really does do proper black, and the clarity is amazing.
We've recently bought a new telly and had a look at the LG OLED and the Sony XD93, and we really did struggle to justify the extra for the OLED model. Blacks were impressive on the LG, but the colours looked garish and forced on it, whilst being much more natural on the Sony. They Sony seemed that little bit sharper as well - no doubt a dodgy feed to the LG in Currys.
Although we did end up spending the extra after all, after I suggested we should look at the 65" model....had it a week now and it's been absolutely superb - 4K HDR on it is absolutely stunning. For instance in the GT when Clarkson takes the Aston across Italy, on the old TV we were struggling to see where the brown/orange coments were coming from, as it mostly looked red. Watch it in HDR and - oh yes, it's brown
Although we did end up spending the extra after all, after I suggested we should look at the 65" model....had it a week now and it's been absolutely superb - 4K HDR on it is absolutely stunning. For instance in the GT when Clarkson takes the Aston across Italy, on the old TV we were struggling to see where the brown/orange coments were coming from, as it mostly looked red. Watch it in HDR and - oh yes, it's brown
I couldn't quite reconcile the extra spend, and the Sony's upscaling is excellent which was a factor for me. HDR 4K on the Sony is also incredible but the colours are a little more natural to my eye. Bottom line is I think anyone would struggle to be disappointed with either screen.
Thing is, even coming from a 42" up to a 55", I keep looking at it and thinking, "Hmm...I could have got away with a 65" there...!"
Thing is, even coming from a 42" up to a 55", I keep looking at it and thinking, "Hmm...I could have got away with a 65" there...!"
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