HDMI splitters/ethernet etc...

HDMI splitters/ethernet etc...

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Hard-Drive

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4,079 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Looking for a bit of advice please. In my living room is a big 4k UHD TV, a TV point, a freeview recorder box, a blu ray, and 4 ports of Cat6 ethernet (although it's only CCA cable)

In my downstairs loo is a comms cabinet, 48 port patch panel and a 10/100 switch.

Here's the issue I'm trying to solve...in my kitchen is a small 20" TV, 4 x Cat6 ports, and a crap indoor aeriel box that doesn't really work.

What I want to be able to do is basically watch whatever the living room freeview box is tuned to, on the kitchen TV. I think it needs to go something like this...

HDMI splitter plugged into the back of the freeview box. On the splitter, one HDMI lead goes to the living room TV. The other one has a HDMI to ethernet adaptor.
2 x cat6 cables from the adaptor to the wall sockets, call them port 1 and 2 for clarity.
At the patch panel, patch ports 1 and 2 direct to ports 3 and 4 (the kitchen ports for clarity). Do not patch in the switch.
In the kitchen, ports 3 and 4 to another HDMI splitter and then into the kitchen TV.

Will this work? And if so any recommendations for reasonably priced splitters and adaptors?

And to double check, the single RJ45 socket on the back of the freeview box is just for network connectivity...it won't serve as an AV output I take it?

Thanks in advance!


talkssense

1,336 posts

202 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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http://hdanywhere.co.uk/hdmi-extenders/xtnd-2k-40m...

No need for a separate splitter and sender.

Also on cat 6 for everything including ir

Hard-Drive

Original Poster:

4,079 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Thanks for that...however looks expensive to be honest.

Would my splitters setup described above not do the same job for a fraction of the cost?

megaphone

10,725 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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You can use one of these Labgear extenders. It has HDMI pass through, so no need for a splitter. Runs on a single CAT6. Also has IR send and receive, so you could control the box from the kitchen if needed. I've used them a lot, they are reliable, they may need a bit of setting up, they have small dip switches to adjust for cable length.


http://www.labgear.co.uk/category/hdmi/hdmi-extend...


https://www.amazon.co.uk/LABGEAR-HDX60P-Mini-HDMI-...

Edited by megaphone on Tuesday 3rd January 09:01

goingonholiday

269 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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I've been using these for a couple of years...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portta-Extension-Extender...

Combine with an hdmi splitter or matrix and its a simple cheap multiroom option.

I've never had a problem, good picture and sound.

KamSandhu44

272 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Hard-Drive said:
Looking for a bit of advice please. In my living room is a big 4k UHD TV, a TV point, a freeview recorder box, a blu ray, and 4 ports of Cat6 ethernet (although it's only CCA cable)

In my downstairs loo is a comms cabinet, 48 port patch panel and a 10/100 switch.

Here's the issue I'm trying to solve...in my kitchen is a small 20" TV, 4 x Cat6 ports, and a crap indoor aeriel box that doesn't really work.

What I want to be able to do is basically watch whatever the living room freeview box is tuned to, on the kitchen TV. I think it needs to go something like this...

HDMI splitter plugged into the back of the freeview box. On the splitter, one HDMI lead goes to the living room TV. The other one has a HDMI to ethernet adaptor.
2 x cat6 cables from the adaptor to the wall sockets, call them port 1 and 2 for clarity.
At the patch panel, patch ports 1 and 2 direct to ports 3 and 4 (the kitchen ports for clarity). Do not patch in the switch.
In the kitchen, ports 3 and 4 to another HDMI splitter and then into the kitchen TV.

Will this work? And if so any recommendations for reasonably priced splitters and adaptors?

And to double check, the single RJ45 socket on the back of the freeview box is just for network connectivity...it won't serve as an AV output I take it?

Thanks in advance!
What you are propsing sounds like it should work. Neet products are usually reliable and resonably priced.

On a side note, how long is your HDMI cable from your comms to your 4K TV?

Hard-Drive

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4,079 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Cheers for all the replies guys.

Megaphone...looks interesting. How, in practical terms, does the IR thing work? Do I need to put the IR dongle in front of the freeview box in my living room? Do I then need to carry the freeview remote through to the kitchen, or will basic channel up/down work from the kitchen TV remote? Or can I just order a duplicate freeview remote and keep it in the kitchen?

KamSandhu44, the HDMI cable is 1m long, and is a Sondstrom gold item.

Just probably worth pointing out that the number of netowrk cables is not an issue. I built the house, and thanks to PH advice, I installed 6 Cat6 ports behind the TV. 3 are currently taken up by the Blu-Ray, TV and Freeview box, but I still have 3 spare...although I do see the attraction of thus solution only needing to use 1.


Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Another way:

I have used the below IR Injectors to great effect over 15 and 20m HDMI cables. Not sure how they would/wouldn't work with the Cat6 cable adaptors but if they work for an HDMI signal I see now reason why they would falter:

Between these, a £20 hdmi splitter and a £50 HDMI over single cat6 cable you'd be up and running in no time.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=se...

Fore Left

1,418 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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I currently have a HDMI splitter and HDMI over twin cat 5 to feed TV from the media pc in the living room to the kitchen. I am however thinking of replacing it with one of these which can distribute the signal to all TVs* via a amplifier.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00KBXKJ2A/ref=wl_it_d...

  • providing they have a DVB-T tuner as I understand it.

megaphone

10,725 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Hard-Drive said:
Cheers for all the replies guys.

Megaphone...looks interesting. How, in practical terms, does the IR thing work? Do I need to put the IR dongle in front of the freeview box in my living room? Do I then need to carry the freeview remote through to the kitchen, or will basic channel up/down work from the kitchen TV remote? Or can I just order a duplicate freeview remote and keep it in the kitchen?

KamSandhu44, the HDMI cable is 1m long, and is a Sondstrom gold item.

Just probably worth pointing out that the number of netowrk cables is not an issue. I built the house, and thanks to PH advice, I installed 6 Cat6 ports behind the TV. 3 are currently taken up by the Blu-Ray, TV and Freeview box, but I still have 3 spare...although I do see the attraction of thus solution only needing to use 1.
You'll need to take the remote with you to the kitchen, or get another. Yes the IR 'blaster' just sticks in front of the freeview box.

Hard-Drive

Original Poster:

4,079 posts

229 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Thanks again all. Megaphone, I think your option is probably the best so far, as all I'm trying to achieve here is getting past the lack of TV aerial socket in the kitchen (oversight of mine when I built the house!) The other rooms (dining room/bedroom) all have sockets so we're good there.

Quite like the idea of being able to change channel too, and a spare remote is only about £20.

Thanks!

chrisga

2,089 posts

187 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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Are you trying to get past the lack of TV aerial socket in the kitchen or achieve what you said in first post of mirroring the TV in the lounge? Two quite different things I guess.

If you just want to watch TV in the kitchen couldn't you just buy an amazon firestick for £25 or a now tv box and load the TV app and watch TV channels over wifi? Won't necessarily give you as many channels as freeview but you'd get the basics. Its what we've done as we forgot the aerial in the bedroom but having said that I think the TV upstairs has been on a max of about 5 times in over a year!

Oh and I guess that way you can watch different channels in the two rooms should you not decide what to watch....

Hard-Drive

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Thursday 5th January 2017
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chrisga said:
Are you trying to get past the lack of TV aerial socket in the kitchen or achieve what you said in first post of mirroring the TV in the lounge? Two quite different things I guess.

If you just want to watch TV in the kitchen couldn't you just buy an amazon firestick for £25 or a now tv box and load the TV app and watch TV channels over wifi? Won't necessarily give you as many channels as freeview but you'd get the basics. Its what we've done as we forgot the aerial in the bedroom but having said that I think the TV upstairs has been on a max of about 5 times in over a year!

Oh and I guess that way you can watch different channels in the two rooms should you not decide what to watch....
Hi mate...

I've got a Firestick on the kitchen telly already but to be honest using that to watch BBC news in the mornings is a PITA by the time it's woken up and you've navigated the iPlayer.

If both downstairs TVs are showing the same that's great...works nicely if you've nipping in and out of the living room doing some cooking, and if we want to actually watch different things of an evening we'll just use the bedroom TV.

chrisga

2,089 posts

187 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Cool it was just a thought to save all the splitters and other stuff.

Hard-Drive

Original Poster:

4,079 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Guys

Still not ordered anything yet! I won't explain all the details/reasoning here but is it possible in some way to get a gadget that would allow me to have my freevie box HDMI outlet split to multiple TVs in different rooms over CAT6e? Ideally I want...

Living room TV direct feed from freeview box
Kitchen TV
Ceiling mounted projector in media room

Is this possible? ForeLeft's suggestion looks good, however it relies on coax, not ethernet...

Thanks

Flat-out

832 posts

195 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Just found this forum and thread. Fascinating reading. smile

Anyway, yes this is possible. I am not a techy so I'll just describe what I have and find the products as best as I can. Apologies- I just call my AV guys and tell them what I want so I may say something stoopid or have missed the point.

I have 2 x Sky Q boxes (big and small), 4K Blu-ray player and a console in a central place. These beam all content to 6(!) TVs around the house over ethernet. I have these things:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UALBKIK?th=1

https://www.cablematic.co.uk/ref/HN14?gclid=CIzLu_...

...for non-4K stuff to small kitchen TV and a spare bedroom. So it is Sky Q mini>splitter>this little ethernet box and at the other end of the ethernet cable in the other room, there is little box>HDMI into TV.

I've had these ethernet boxes previously and the newer ones are much better- before, each box needed its own power source (cable and plug) whereas the newer ones are powered through the HDMI port. This has made mounting the TVs as flush as possible much much easier (I was told. I just watched hehe).

For 4K, you'll have to pay eye-watering sums for the ethernet boxes:-

http://www.futureshop.co.uk/blustream-hex70bkit-hd...

I kinda wished I'd known about this additional cost before buying a load of 4K TVs but nevermind. rolleyes

As for changing channels in each room, this is possible by small IR blasters from each ethernet box. An IR sensor is stuck behind each TV. In front of each Sky box is stuck down the corresponding IR unit which then controls the box.

smile