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RoamingBull

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167 posts

93 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Good Morning All,

I guess this has been up discussion many times.

Anyway we are due to start a project this spring/summer and would like Home Automation.
How far we go down the route will depend on the price.

We would like sound,heating,security and lighting as a minimum.

Has anybody got any good suggestion regarding brands etc that they have installed into there homes.
I have looked into Loxone,Control4,Crestron etc but just be good to receive some advice and previous experiences with any other products.

I know it depends on how fully automated we go and the size of the property but I guess we would be looking at around 20k?

Really wanted control most of the house via the ipad/pc rather than having different devices to control certain areas.

All help/advice is welcome

NorthDave

2,368 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I would say to choose the installer rather than the technology. They should be able to show you lots of experience installing the solution they recommend, multiple case studies and maybe let you talk to a customer with a similar sized system.

For £20k you wont be at the Crestron or Control4 level but I know a lot of smaller guys use Loxone and seem to like it. I don't know pricing for it though.

If you want help with any specifics then feel free to ask - i'll be impartial as the project isn't one we would get involved in.

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

98 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Yes Crestron would be out of budget. I am happy to do a Control4 demo for you. Depending on the amount of control and what devices you need it may be under £20k. Tried to email you but turned yours is turned off. See my profile for details.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Firstly, forget any products of hardware manufacturers for the moment.

What you think would work for you may not actually achieve your desires. You run the potential to be disapointed or over budget.

As NorthDave has said, find an installer that you are happy can meet ypur nèeds and then work with them to build your ideal kit combination / solution.

For me as an installer, it really hangs on where you are, doing the actual project isnt the difficult bit, it is how to support you and evolve the project afterwards if you are 2 hrs in the opposite direct to your installers usual work load.

Hapoy to be involved if your local or even a sounding board if not.

V.

tactical lizard

166 posts

132 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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You could get a decent Loxone set up for under 20k.

Where are you based? I may be able to help.

foliedouce

3,067 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I know Creston is fully customisable, but what's the difference between Lucxone and Control4?

I've been discussing a Control4 system with someone just had a quick look at the Luxone website and it looks bloody good for the budget.

Vex, drop me a line if you want.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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YHM Mr Douce

RoamingBull

Original Poster:

167 posts

93 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Sorry Gents for the No response as I'm out of the country until mid Feb.

Thank you for the replies.
As you say it's not going to be cheap, but whichever I choose we're looking at something that's easy to upgrade and good customer service in general.
It's an old barn that we are converting so will be wiring from scratch. Whether we go down the route of full installation by one of the companies or working with our own sparky is a ?

One of the guys I work with has just installed Control 4. He said for his music(All rooms 4 Bed house) and TV he paid 15k with two rooms surround sound. That was up near Aberdeen

We are based in North Lincolnshire.

I have spoken to Loxone based over Donny way but were looking for further options.

My architect will be carrying out the tendering of the project and management, I'm sure he will gulp when I tell him what we intend on the home automation.

Good for an email now!!

Cheers

Edited by RoamingBull on Tuesday 24th January 06:51

JimexPL

1,446 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Take a look at KNX also, as it opens you up to hundreds of different manufacturers using the same cable infrastructure and communication protocol.
As others have said, find an installer that you're happy with first, then work out which hardware to use.
Where possible, we use KNX for the core house functionality- lighting, hvac, door entry etc, and Control4 or Crestron for the AV.
As much as the AV manufacturers want to sell you a complete solution, it is rarely the best choice.
Loxone is a great alternative to KNX, and can form part of a KNX system where budgets are tight.

We're in London, so wouldn't be your first choice as a contractor, but give myknxstore (part of Park Group) a call for a recommendation of an installer near you.

RoamingBull

Original Poster:

167 posts

93 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Cheers Jim for the advice will check the advice out