Multi room AV

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R8Steve

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4,150 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Apologies if this has been done to death but a quick search didn’t bring up a definitive answer so I thought I’d ask the question again.

I am looking to intergrate all my home audio while I am getting the house refurbished and was wondering the best way to go about it.

The house layout is a bungalow style, kitchen, 4 bed, 3 bath, 2 public and one games/cinema room.

What I’m looking to do ideally is to have the following –

Ceiling/hidden speakers in kitchen, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms
7.1 in games/cinema room
5.1 in public room
CCTV 4 camera setup throughout exterior

Ideally all would be controlled from whatever AV is required stored in the store cupboard which is in the games/cinema room

The tv setup will be –
Kitchen - 55” Samsung smart
Public room 1 – 60” Samsung smart
Bedroom 1 – 42 Samsung smart
Games/cinema room – HD projector

I’m hoping I’m going to have a fairly easy job with this with it being a bungalow layout and having loft access to route all the wiring but I’m not sure where to even start with this equipment wise if i'm honest.

ETA - my broadband is registering speeds of 66Mb-78Mb if that makes anything any easier.


Edited by R8Steve on Tuesday 21st February 12:06

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Ignor the hardware for the start, just focus on getting the correct infrastructure in place, the. You can look at the hardware.

Typically we install 2 coax and 2 Car6 cables to every Tv point. Then in key rooms we wire an additional 2 data points to the opposite corner of the room.

Also plan for data points in the kitchen plinth, wardrobes and loft for future wifi boosting.

Kitchen, Utility and Garage Data points for future smart white goods and smart cars.

Basic rule of thumb, wire everything that can be / could be wired leave wireless for true wireless (portable) devices

For control you need to look at what you need and how far you want to go. You can start with programmable remote at £100 a pop and go upwards with out really stopping!

Hope that helps for now. Happy to help more if needed.

V.

R8Steve

Original Poster:

4,150 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Thanks Vex,

I'll put that on the list for cabling certainly and some good suggestions for future proofing.

Have you had any dealings with the control4 systems? I've seen today when researching that they do an 8 zone control and 8 zone amplifier which I think would be perfect not to mention the additional bonus of lighting/power/heating control. I'm struggling to find many reviews or details about the systems though.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I am not a C4 dealer, mainly because everyone else is! And I dont like playing the me to game.

I prefer to offer a 'best of bread' solution for all aspects, rather than one shoe fits all.

Dont get me wrong C4 is good and there are many very good dealers out there, buy there are as many that are not, as with anything.

You mention an 8 Zone system, but not for what, music? Video? both.

If it is video, look at HD Anywhere as well, for audio I am switch to Yamaha or Denon this year over Sonos, because of its price increase and they dont offer a surround sound amp with sonos built in, so there is a delay if you want to run party modes, Yamaha and Denon build it into thier AV Amps.

V.

mattyn1

5,780 posts

156 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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God I can hear my mrs getting the papers ready at the amount I need (and I do mean need) to do end when we move in the summer.

Question about HDanywhere and Sky..... if it is piped to 8 differing rooms how many different programs can we have on at any one time? Or does it mean one device to one tv?

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

98 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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You can only watch one channel on a sky box at once regardless of the senders you use. You could have two sky boxes and a hdmi or HDBT switch and then you could have two channels to choose from. You can watch the same thing on all 8 tv's if wish though.

mattyn1

5,780 posts

156 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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chasingracecars said:
You can only watch one channel on a sky box at once regardless of the senders you use. You could have two sky boxes and a hdmi or HDBT switch and then you could have two channels to choose from. You can watch the same thing on all 8 tv's if wish though.
Thank you. We have one sky q main box and two mini boxes, so assume I would be able to watch a max of three. Can I add more mini boxes?

Is there an alternative that would allow me watch premium channels on more than three TVs?

Please note I do not even know if it will be a limiting issue.... just scoping at the moment!,

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

98 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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If you have SkyQ and three minis then yes you can have three channels showing at ones on as many TVs as you want.

Give me a call if you want I am around all weekend. Your requirements would be easier to discuss over the phone to get a solution that's right.

mattyn1

5,780 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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I do not want to burden you with a phone call just yet but thank you again for the offer.

I really like the idea of a Sound Bar with a Sub, and two surround speakers behind. I see this is achievable with Sonos, but is it with Heos or Yamaha MusicCast?

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

98 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Yes it is achievable I have a Sonos playbar Sonos sub and two play1's on flexon stands. And it's all for sale.

Defiantly possible with yahama but suggest for now it's wired. Will check in the morning.

Let me know.

Edited by chasingracecars on Tuesday 28th February 21:55

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

98 months

Tuesday 28th February 2017
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Ok so the answer is no. The Yamaha WX10 and WX30 although can be set up as pairs they cannot currently be setup as rears.

See here...

Can MusicCast Wireless Speakers be used for surround sound speakers?

The MusicCast Speaker is not intended for use as a wireless surround sound speaker. However, MusicCast products in general support a wide variety of surround sound experiences. For those who want the ultimate home theater, MusicCast AV receivers support many multi-channel configurations and technologies, including up to Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, depending on the model. For those looking for a simple installation, the MusicCast Sound Bar (YSP-1600) and MusicCast TV Speaker Base (SRT-1500) use Yamaha digital sound projector technology to deliver true 5.1-channel surround sound without the need for wiring surround sound speakers.