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Herbs

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4,916 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Has anyone heard when this is meant to be hitting the market?

I'm in the process of wiring the house for AV before the walls are replastered and floors are replaced so now is the ideal time but apart from multiple runs of cat5e i'm finding it difficult to actually work out what is need to run HD round the whole house as most systems like Opus do everything I want apart from the HD.

Help gratefully appreciated smile

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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If you can think of a reason to have one cable, have two.

If you can think of a reason to have two cables, have four.

If you can think of a reason to have four cables, have eight.


Rinse and repeat.

Herbs

Original Poster:

4,916 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I'm going to run 3 to 4 to every location but am unsure what else to run (HDMI, Optical, Co-ax etc) and also whether to run to the TV locations or to an area where a wall mounted keypad would be situated and then a run from there to the TV point

confused

kryten

597 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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CAT5 cable is cheap when bought in reels. Wire to everywhere with multiple cables as already suggested.

I am now severly under cabled and its a nightmare trying to plan the whole house system (wife seems to think its an opportunity to redecorate every room!)

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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You can run practically anything down Cat5 / 6, so just flood the place with it.

Oh and coax if you really really want to.

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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I am wiring in Cat6 now, dropped Cat5 totally.

HDbaseT is commercially available as point to point links, in fact I have one in a customers house and it is very good.

Matrix Switches are due the end of Q1 this year, but I am not holding my breath, I would expect Q2.

For wiring TV points my standard design is 3 Cat6 cable and a Coax. Don't forget power and if you want ultra thin displays mounted very close to the wall then you will have to think about the depth power sockets and data/tv point need. You may be better of doing a cable outlet plate with a switched, fused spur point else where in the room.

The current recommendation is the terminate the CAT cables in connectors rather than plates to give the HDMI connections the best chance possible, however this may change as HDbaseT reaches the market.

HTH

V.

Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

180 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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HDbaseT is the future, second that about HDMi being already dead in the water.

Been eagerly awaiting this technology since it's creation and am considering starting a company just to do this. The the OP, hang on and wait for the tech it's on its way.

Here it was last year which was the demo which got me hooked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpv7khu2Bb8&fmt...

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Herbs, there are better things than opus as well. There just not as well marketed. Just depends on your budget.

Happy to talk them through if you want.

Lord Flathead, happy to talk with you to if you like.

V.

Edited by VEX on Monday 3rd January 22:47

Herbs

Original Poster:

4,916 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Vex - that's much appreciated. I don't really have a budget in mind as it all depends on level of equipment. I need to run the cables in the next 2 weeks so any advice on exactly what to run alongside cat5/6.

My initial aim was to have media cupboard with a couple of Sky + boxes alongside, blueray, Xbox, music centre, Tv, telephone etc that is then all accessed via any tv or zone with speakers mounted in the ceiling and controllable via standard remotes.

So based on that any advice will be greatly received wink

kryten

597 posts

226 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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So, what's available now to get SkyHD and output of a media player to TVs around the house?

Was hoping to use HDbastT but if matrix isn't going to be ready then I'll need to pick something else as I need it in the next couple of weeks!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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kryten said:
So, what's available now to get SkyHD and output of a media player to TVs around the house?

Was hoping to use HDbastT but if matrix isn't going to be ready then I'll need to pick something else as I need it in the next couple of weeks!
What are your expectations budget wise?

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Just a quick up data to this thread.

Talking to an importer yesterday and the first HDBaseT matrixes are in the UK. They are only big ones, 16 x 16 and 8 x 16 and the price is not pretty, but they are here at least.

Just waiting to see what the 8x8 is going to be, but based on the price of the others I would guess at initially over the 10K mark and then you have to add receivers as well.

V.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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>faints<

Baluns it is for now then!

kryten

597 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Octava one is due in next couple of months but probably double the price of the 2xCAT5 4x8 because of chipset costs so possibly around 4-5k for the full 8 receiver package.

Even the current 4x8 is out of stock - due in next month so I might have to go for that and then a couple of HDBaseT baluns for where I only have one cable...

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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The point to point links do work well, put another two in yesterday and tested with my new hdmi patten geni and test screen. Nice and stable at 1080p 60/24 of some low-ish grade cat5e.

Using grandbeing/visionHD matrix hdmi only and links controlled via an iPad interface.

V

VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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VEX said:
Just waiting to see what the 8x8 is going to be, but based on the price of the others I would guess at initially over the 10K mark and then you have to add receivers as well.

V.
Well, happily, I was a little out on the target price.

Talking to a manufacturer last week and there is a sample 8x8 in the country and the target price, WITH receivers, is under the 10k mark.

V.

kryten

597 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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How much under??


VEX

5,256 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st March 2011
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Not much, and it is target prices, so some manufacturers may offer bundle prices.

Just keeping you all informed really so that you all know that I am keeping and eye on it and once I know something concrete I will post it here.

V.

kryten

597 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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OK, cheers. Am currently running using Keene CAT5 composite only sender to a 40" Bravia, so really could do with a plan B fairly soon.

However, 10k is way more than I can justify for this so I may have to go with a 2xCAT5 4x8 matrix (I've prewired for dual CAT5) and then just use a single HDBaseT for the one location where a lack of foresight means I only have one cable...

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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What's the preference for a matrix these days? Smart-E?