Most and least PH cars!!!

Most and least PH cars!!!

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powerstroke

Original Poster:

10,283 posts

159 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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So I will start with most =TVR due to being fun but impractical ,
Least= Audi boring and average .....
just for fun play nicely folks....

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

121 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Least PH car.
Daweoo Matiz.

Most PH car.
Volkswagen Polo GTI.

Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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I'd disagree that Audi are the least PH as they do produce some performance models and aren't offensively styled.

Least PH = Ssangyong. The only reason to buy one is that you have too many children and can't stretch to a Hyundai.

Matt UK

17,649 posts

199 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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A Caterham is a pure drivers car IMHO.

It has so many drawbacks based on any other metric that cars are judged by.

You only buy one if you love driving it (or just have a weird preference for enjoying scuffing your knuckles over the winter whilst fettling it).

vanordinaire

3,701 posts

161 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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If you are asking about our own cars, then I'd say that my most PH is my Mk1 MX5, my least PH my Seat Ibiza Diesel estate (mostly driven by my wife I hasten to add).
If you are asking about cars generally, I'd say most PH is an Aerial Atom, and my Seat Ibiza is still in with a chance on this one amongst any number of anonymous diesel family wagons.

Riley Blue

20,915 posts

225 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Every car is a PH car, depending on the state of mind of the driver e.g. Tiff Needell drifting a Morris Minor.

Hudson

1,857 posts

186 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Is this not going to descend into a "lets slag off the cars of people we dont like".

IMO the least PH car is the one you buy that's "just a car" and has the bare minimum spent on it and is no more valued than the kettle or the oven.

The most PH car would be the one you make compromises on just to own, the sort of car that finally pushes you to quit smoking so you can afford that 2JZ swap or trip to the 'ring smile

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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By Category:

4x4's

PH: Land Rover Defender V8
Not PH: Anything German and Diesel

Hatchbacks

PH: Ford Focus RS
Not PH: Anything German and Diesel

Saloons

PH: Dodge Charger Hellcat
Not PH: Anything German and Diesel

Estates

PH: Volvo 240 Gl
Not PH: Anything German and Diesel

Coupes

PH: Ford Mustang
Not PH: Anything German and Diesel





Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Hudson said:
Is this not going to descend into a "lets slag off the cars of people we dont like".

IMO the least PH car is the one you buy that's "just a car" and has the bare minimum spent on it and is no more valued than the kettle or the oven.

The most PH car would be the one you make compromises on just to own, the sort of car that finally pushes you to quit smoking so you can afford that 2JZ swap or trip to the 'ring smile
I would usually agree with this but my eyes were recently opened to the hot hatch legend that is the Polo GTI, the most PH car ever.

Whitean3

2,182 posts

197 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Obvious answer would be Most PH Car: MX5. Least PH car would be something like a Daewoo Matiz or Hyundai Accent or Kia Piccanto.

But there is a very easy way to get a more definitive answer (something for the Mods/Staff to look at): download/analyze the Members' Cars list and see which one is the most and least common. I would expect MX5s, BMW 3 series and hot hatches to be at the top, with a dispproportionate number of supercars/exotics vs regular public choices.

There should be enough members on PH with car(s) listed in their profiles for such an analysis to be fairly accurate. The outcome doesn't necessarily reveal the most or least 'PH' car- which of course would depend on definition, but would provide an answer to the most commonly owned. If you have a lower cutoff (to exclude one-off machines, which by definition would certainly be PH-worthy) you could identify the least commonly owned run-of-the-mil production cars.

Over to you, PH bods, if you think this would make an interesting PH story...

Valgar

850 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Most: Impreza Turbo
Least: Mitsubishi Space Star

Oh this is not a personal list.

Don't think this'll end well



Edited by Valgar on Friday 27th May 09:44

so called

9,074 posts

208 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Most PH car in my garage scratchchin
Any one of Tuscan, Cerbera or Disco 4 smile

That means my least PH is my MB CLS which I also love. frown


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

189 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Most PH car is anything that is interesting from a motoring enthusiast point of view.

Least interesting are cars that are white goods, boring and should have no appeal to those who should know better. Humdrum budget cars, while not exciting, serve a purpose. It's more the pretenders like the dull as dish water Golfs and Audi's.

Theophany

1,069 posts

129 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Riley Blue said:
Every car is a PH car, depending on the state of mind of the driver e.g. Tiff Needell drifting a Morris Minor.
The only PH thing that can be done with a Daewoo Matiz is putting a brick on the accelerator and watching it go off Beachy Head at terminal velocity.

IIIRestorerIII

841 posts

227 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Good News!

The award for the least PH car goes to the....


... Dacia Sandero!

Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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The Matiz at least has an interesting exhaust noise, which elevates it above a lot of 4-cyl powered vehicles.

Ennoch

371 posts

137 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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To me the least PH car is the one you get in to go somewhere and get out of at the other end without any thought to the car at all. Literally the automotive equivalent of a washing machine.

On the other hand there are a lot of different factors that can make a car 'PH'. Speed; without a doubt...the sort of speed that makes you giggle. Noise; something spine tingling like a straight piped S2000, or the deep bellow of a V8. Feel; good handling, or connection to the road, or the ability to provoke the car and have some fun. Effort; something you have to work at to go quickly in, something that you can get moving quickly but the average non-driver type driver wouldn't because they don't understand that you have to work with the car to your mutual advantage.

The least PH car I've driven was probably an original Vauxhall Agila, or maybe a Micra...the last of the early '00s shape. They were plasticky, handled terribly and if you tried to drive them, you just ended up frustrated.

The most PH though, that's harder. Of the stuff I've owned I'd say it's hard to argue against my tweaked Impreza. It grips well, it goes well, it stops well...handling wise it isn't all that, but it covers ground ridiculously quickly when you want it to. But then I could also say that my old Sprinter (SWB, non turbo, 80bhp & 195/15 tyres) was also fun. Wind it up, and it went round corners reasonably successfully, it would drift on wet roundabouts and you really had to earn your speed and pace with it...it rewarded you taking the bull by the horns and bullying it where necessary, teasing it to use every inch of the road in others so you could carry the extra 0.1mph necessary to get up the next hill without having to drop a gear. It made me smile, much more than the Octavia vRS I also had at the same time. Sure, the glacial accelaration grated but the van had character. It also had 300k miles and some mildew. But mainly character. And to me that's the essence of what makes a vehicle interesting or 'PH'; do you enjoy the time you're driving it?

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Most cliched PH car: MX-5

Most editorialised PH car: 911

Most objectively PH car (driver focussed, analogue, gorgeous, not too new, matches the company director's well-built goatee): Ferrari F40 or McLaren F1


Least PH car: hmmm, not sure. Probably a Jazz, small-engined (diesel) Golf or a 318d. Or a Prius. Something bland, common, (generally) bought by people who don't care about cars and has no "reverse" charm about it (i.e. so cheap/ugly/cutesy it generates that certain charm).

smithyithy

7,192 posts

117 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Most: TVR
Least: Zafira

parabolica

6,703 posts

183 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Blanchimont said:
Most PH car.
Volkswagen Polo GTI.
Have I missed a potentially-golden thread about this somewhere? been seeing this a lot in the last few days...