Advice on this one please.
Discussion
Young girl from the office has received a Nip from a Scamera van 48 in a 40, as she is the registered keeper. She remembers the incident as her boyfriend was driving and they were arguing at the time. The reason for arguing is relevant as he is Bulgarian and was going back home having not found any work, she has been dumped basically!
She has found a contact address in Bulgaria, but wants to know what the likely outcome will be, as she thinks the ex-BF will just either ignore any correspondence or just say "not me mate" and then it will come back on her, already on 3 points, and driving less than a year, so retest time? Not fair I know, but what do we all reckon???
She has found a contact address in Bulgaria, but wants to know what the likely outcome will be, as she thinks the ex-BF will just either ignore any correspondence or just say "not me mate" and then it will come back on her, already on 3 points, and driving less than a year, so retest time? Not fair I know, but what do we all reckon???
Hopefully the images they have show a bloke driving. If the story is factual I'd be surprised if there was an issue, just name him on the 172. If you anticipate further questions being raised then preempt them with a covering letter.
Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
Dear AGT Law and PH,
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
Rangeroverover said:
Dear AGT Law and PH,
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
While I'm glad actually qualified people do comment and give proper advice, I think it's a bit of an imposition on them creating what would essentially be a free legal advice section. Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
ModernAndy said:
Rangeroverover said:
Dear AGT Law and PH,
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
While I'm glad actually qualified people do comment and give proper advice, I think it's a bit of an imposition on them creating what would essentially be a free legal advice section. Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
Rangeroverover said:
Dear AGT Law and PH,
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
If people take legal advice from an internet forum then they deserve everything they get.... seek proper advice FFS.Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
Helicopter123 said:
agtlaw said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
but if not, it still isn't an issue for her.
Wrong.ModernAndy said:
Rangeroverover said:
Dear AGT Law and PH,
Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
While I'm glad actually qualified people do comment and give proper advice, I think it's a bit of an imposition on them creating what would essentially be a free legal advice section. Do you think we could have a "qualified access" section on PH so only people who are qualified to answer questions can do so. I get really fed up with the bar room briefs.."well if the constable wasn't wearing his hat you weren't properly cautioned"
I worry that some people will rely on the poor advice trotted out.
T66ORA said:
She has found a contact address in Bulgaria, but wants to know what the likely outcome will be, as she thinks the ex-BF will just either ignore any correspondence or just say "not me mate" and then it will come back on her, already on 3 points, and driving less than a year, so retest time? Not fair I know, but what do we all reckon???
She will have complied with the S.172 request. However as it's an obvious tactic by those who abuse the system she can expect it to be subject to further investigation and be on the receiving end of further questions. OP, have a look at this.
Even if she has told the truth and the speeding charge can't be proceeded with because the driver is out of their reach, one thing that is likely to be looked at is whether THAT driver was covered to drive THAT vehicle for THAT purpose on THAT occasion: RTA 1988 Section 143(1)(b). See here.
Otoh, if she has been 'economical with the truth' then she could be looking at PCoJ and time inside.
elanfan said:
Hopefully the images they have show a bloke driving. If the story is factual I'd be surprised if there was an issue, just name him on the 172. If you anticipate further questions being raised then preempt them with a covering letter.
Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
If he *was* driving, but didn't have appropriate insurance cover, the girl in question may well be better off taking the hit on the 3 points and fine for speeding, rather than the penalty for allowing her car to be driven by a driver without appropriate insurance cover. If she is no longer in contact with the mystery Eastern European, then proving he had appropriate insurance (if not covered as a named driver), could be challenging.Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
Trabi601 said:
elanfan said:
Hopefully the images they have show a bloke driving. If the story is factual I'd be surprised if there was an issue, just name him on the 172. If you anticipate further questions being raised then preempt them with a covering letter.
Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
If he *was* driving, but didn't have appropriate insurance cover, the girl in question may well be better off taking the hit on the 3 points and fine for speeding, rather than the penalty for allowing her car to be driven by a driver without appropriate insurance cover. If she is no longer in contact with the mystery Eastern European, then proving he had appropriate insurance (if not covered as a named driver), could be challenging.Insurance is completely irrelevant he could quite easily have his own cover. Don't get distracted by this.
In France, it is the CAR that is insured rather than the driver, and the insurance is displayed in the windscreen via a sticker.
When my father was taken ill while we were out, I was able to take the wheel and drive him to hospital, then drive my mother home without the worry of wondering if I was covered.
Would this not be a more certain way of doing things here?
When my father was taken ill while we were out, I was able to take the wheel and drive him to hospital, then drive my mother home without the worry of wondering if I was covered.
Would this not be a more certain way of doing things here?
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