Louis Theroux: Miami Mega Jail
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t.FraserLFA said:
I assume you mean "Not proven guilty" rather than "innocent". Unfortunately, that's just the way it is. Over crowded prisons, long legal system, too dangerous to be on the streets, it's only ever going to end one way.
Don't know if it is different over there, but in a UK context I mean innocent. Until the gavel falls.Taita said:
FraserLFA said:
I assume you mean "Not proven guilty" rather than "innocent". Unfortunately, that's just the way it is. Over crowded prisons, long legal system, too dangerous to be on the streets, it's only ever going to end one way.
Don't know if it is different over there, but in a UK context I mean innocent. Until the gavel falls.
I found the whole thing deeply harrowing. There is simply no excuse for treating other innocent (until proven guilty) human beings in such a savage and inhumane way. And given the amount of crime, shirley such a system as exists in the US has proven itself not to work, at least as a deterrent.
I also agree with something Louis hinted at, that the behaviour is in large part a learned behaviour - the 'code' becomes self-fulfilling. Any innocent person upon finding themselves in such a detention centre would surely come out a deeply disturbed individual, and one who then has the propensity to commit crime when they otherwise wouldn't.
I also agree with something Louis hinted at, that the behaviour is in large part a learned behaviour - the 'code' becomes self-fulfilling. Any innocent person upon finding themselves in such a detention centre would surely come out a deeply disturbed individual, and one who then has the propensity to commit crime when they otherwise wouldn't.
HurryUpAndWait said:
I found the whole thing deeply harrowing. There is simply no excuse for treating other innocent (until proven guilty) human beings in such a savage and inhumane way. And given the amount of crime, shirley such a system as exists in the US has proven itself not to work, at least as a deterrent.
No other system is proven to work either, every country has got it's repeat offenders. We lock people up for 23 hours a day and there is still violence in that one hour they are let out.Marf said:
True enough, still, doesnt alter the fact that their version of remand is pretty fierce compared to ours.
Their whole system of law and order is much more severe than ours. However the average crim on that Strangeways program had over 100 previous offences iirc, I bet that doesn't happen so often in the US - particularly in three strikes states.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff