Fake or Fortune? BBC1
Discussion
The spoiler prologue essentially destroying the linear narrative is not just
an aspect of this show, it's frigging endemic in documentary, true-life progs.
Designed for the foreign sales market where there's an ad break after 4 min.
{ and people still want the licence fee abolished ]
I always begin watching after 4 minutes or FF through the infernal dross.
an aspect of this show, it's frigging endemic in documentary, true-life progs.
Designed for the foreign sales market where there's an ad break after 4 min.
{ and people still want the licence fee abolished ]
I always begin watching after 4 minutes or FF through the infernal dross.
youngsyr said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I think she said she did try to find the seller but to no avail.
I'm not sure how the conversation would have gone if she did find them though..... Remember that statue I bought for £90, do you have any paperwork for it? Why? Oh no reason....
I'm not talking about paperwork, a simple "how did you come to own it?" would have been a lot better than what we got and why wouldn't you ask upon/immediately after buying?I'm not sure how the conversation would have gone if she did find them though..... Remember that statue I bought for £90, do you have any paperwork for it? Why? Oh no reason....
PinkTornado said:
The brilliant Dr Bendor Grosvenor- he used to work for Philip Mould but went off on his own and presented the similar (but much more personable) 'Britain's Lost Masterpieces'. This caused a falling out with Mould.
That is the chap, I knew he had a Christian name that wasn't common but couldn't think of it.I never knew he worked for Mould.
PinkTornado said:
...Dr Bendor Grosvenor...
Of the Grosvenor Square, Duke of Westminster, Grosvenors, of course.As others have said, the F or F show worked better when there was 'an expert' on hand to explain the behind the scenes investigations rather than pretending that the presenters have worked it out by Googling 'Frink statue' and telephoning a few of Mouldy's mates.
youngsyr said:
Nethybridge said:
One of the best episodes, that the statue was an acquired taste matters not. Most enjoyable,
Odd, wasn't it?Not sure I could describe it, or even found it beautiful, but it would undoubtedly draw attention if it was just sat in a room.
Anyway, at the risk of criticism I was pleased that the owner seemed like a regular person rather than someone "posh" who had brought a family heirloom. Just my prejudice I guess.
Interested to read the conjecture about how she came by it though and the claim that she couldn't find the person she bought it off to ask questions. That did jar a bit for me..
PhilboSE said:
…what a bizarre law.
I wonder how it works in practice. Do they just coming to an agreement to sell the item and split the money? Or does the new owner just avoid getting the work of art authenticated on national tv
Does it count for other appreciating assets, such as a classic car?
Truckosaurus said:
PhilboSE said:
…what a bizarre law.
I wonder how it works in practice. Do they just coming to an agreement to sell the item and split the money? Or does the new owner just avoid getting the work of art authenticated on national tv
Does it count for other appreciating assets, such as a classic car?
TEKNOPUG said:
What if the painting has been sold on several times before it's correctly identified? Presumably there are countries that don't enforce French Law?
Yes, I was wondering that, how can a French law be enforced in another sovereign state ?There has to be agreement between countries that they will honour such things, e.g. extradition
Nethybridge said:
TEKNOPUG said:
What if the painting has been sold on several times before it's correctly identified? Presumably there are countries that don't enforce French Law?
Yes, I was wondering that, how can a French law be enforced in another sovereign state ?There has to be agreement between countries that they will honour such things, e.g. extradition
Nethybridge said:
The spoiler prologue essentially destroying the linear narrative is not just
an aspect of this show, it's frigging endemic in documentary, true-life progs.
Designed for the foreign sales market where there's an ad break after 4 min.
{ and people still want the licence fee abolished ]
I always begin watching after 4 minutes or FF through the infernal dross.
We do the same. It's so annoying. an aspect of this show, it's frigging endemic in documentary, true-life progs.
Designed for the foreign sales market where there's an ad break after 4 min.
{ and people still want the licence fee abolished ]
I always begin watching after 4 minutes or FF through the infernal dross.
Randy Winkman said:
Interested to read the conjecture about how she came by it though and the claim that she couldn't find the person she bought it off to ask questions. That did jar a bit for me..
Runs a scrap metal business, in Essex? Are there any scrappies in Essex that aren't connected to organised crime? TEKNOPUG said:
What if the painting has been sold on several times before it's correctly identified? Presumably there are countries that don't enforce French Law?
There must surely be a statute of limitations on the process, otherwise you'd have to check that it had never been owned by a Frenchie, as they can seemingly claim they sold it 'by mistake' at any time if they later discover it's worth a lot more than they sold it for. I can sort of understand it for items 'stolen' (or purchased well below market value, as many were) by the nasties in WWII, which is presumably where the law originated from, but not if it was bought and sold in good faith without any such criminal intervention.
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