Books: A Song of Ice and Fire [SPOILERS]

[Halb]

From what I've read, it's E2.

[rasto]

I was guessing e4 for the purple wedding,Red Viper vs Mountain for e9 + probably the end of the wall fight with Stannis turning up.

[richtea78]

There should be the battle of Moletown early I think?

[Halb]

rasto said:

I was guessing e4 for the purple wedding,Red Viper vs Mountain for e9 + probably the end of the wall fight with Stannis turning up.

In an interview the two main bods have said that this series ups the tempo and has multiple big endings (I think 3?) to surpass the big upset per series in the last three series.
Considering we sort of know what is coming, I am not surprised. The first is ep 2, which timeline wise suggests the Purple Wedding.

It is known.

[Halb]

Looks like I surmised correctly. The PW is next week!!!
Haha, it should be frakking ace.

[Alapeno]

On the subject of the purple wedding...

Was it Tywin? It's been so long I can't remember. Also, why the "Purple wedding"? Is this something to do with the colour of Joffrey's face?

[richtea78]

The books dont call it the Purple Wedding. There are several reasons. Purple is similar to the Lannister colours, its often a royal colour, the poison is smuggled in Sansa's hair beads which are Amythysts and as you say he goes purple.

It isnt ever confirmed who kills him but it was a plot with the Tyrells and Baelish. Sansa and Tyrion are falsly accused, which isnt hurt by the fact Sansa escapes (with Baelish's help). There is a lot of argument about who actually kills him. My theory is that it was Olenna but it could quite easily have been Margery.

The only person who was that bothered was Cersei, if I remember even Jaime thought he deserved it. It could also have been Varys as several times poison is referred to as a eunachs weapon of choice plus he wanted to protect the realm from another "mad" king and there is little doubt Joffery would have been a very bad king

[Halb]

I think we shall find out who did kill him in the series, perhaps even next week.
Personally I think it was Olenna..perhaps...but er, where does the necklace come from, it's Ser Dontos, who ultimately, is LF's man. I don't see Olenna and LF as compatriots though.

[richtea78]

That was a necklace, not hair beads so let's see. I would be surprised if they reveal it

So hard not to talk about it. At work my boss was talking about Joffrey. So wanted to tell him

[Halb]

The telly has been more explicit on certain things. The one I can think of is the reason for Trant (or is it Blount?) who tries to kill Tyrion, it's not revealed in the book, but I'm glad we got it from the series. I think that is one of the great things about this series, it compliments the book, it doesn't just copy or translate.
Martin has said he will write characters now to their series counterparts, which is ace!

[richtea78]

It was very strongly hinted at as to the reason he tried to Tyrion. The books are much more subtle on many aspects and it's one criticism of the series that I think they dumbed it down too much but for obvious reasons

[Halb]

Originally I thought it was on orders from Cersei, but it was Joffrey, so I was wrong there.

I plan to reread them after this series.

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I notice the Banshee actor is a warg and not the Magnar of Thenn, so guessing he will be the Sixskins character.

Also it is Bronn who teaches Jaime how to fight, so that'll keep him in the story.

Edited by Halb on Monday 7th April 22:51

[richtea78]

In the books he learns from Illyn Payne but obviously cant do that in the show so looks like Bronn fills another characters again - he gets a lot of work!

[Halb]

This is a good thing.

[Halb]

Following on from the casting issue chat in the other thread.
I was actually wondering about Varys during the first ep (or S3E10). He disappears for awhile, so will he be out of one series? Does he have a contract where he can't work certain dates in 2015? Will he brought in for some new scenes just to keep him 'busy'?

[richtea78]

Here is the article about Valyrian Steel

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Valyrian_stee...

[Halb]

moustachebandit said:

And thinking back to events directly related to the episode - they also cut the ferry journey with Arya & the Hound, plus a chapters worth of walking, stopping, making a fire, walking, riding, visiting a tavern, eating, making camp, hobbling a horse, riding, drinking, passing travellers … haha!

To discuss something MB said in the other thread.
It's the encounter with Polliver et al that gives the Hound his 'mortal' wounds isn't it? He didn't seem to suffer any in the show...so...something must come up where he gets done over pretty well. I am gonna guess the river crossing does come up, and he gets filled with arrows...or he comes across Rorge and Biter....which might provide an opportunity for Rorge to get the helm.

[ali_kat]

Or they don't do that bit?

[richtea78]

I thought he did get cut accross the back but agree, it didnt seem to bother him later so maybe they have changed that bit. There is whole junks of pointless wandering about they can remove easily.

[Halb]

ali_kat said:

Or they don't do that bit?

The show jumbles things up and stuff, but there has been no large scale deviation. Something needs to happen to the Hound, the question (and interesting thing) is what?
A confrontation with Rorge would be a hell of an episode!