The Hobbit movie

[Halb]

Y282 said:

Annatar was Sauron. When he still took fair form and deceived others to do his will. Numenorean era.

some geek kids told me while i was pushing them in a puddle and taking their dinner money then doing dead big skids on my bike to impress girls.

Ahh, I recall. He had many names, too many to list. I read all aboot this stuff decades ago. Had a few large compendiums of Tolkien's world.
I was one of hose geeks, bought all the books and the annual calendars.
Forgotten a lot of it now, but still love the books.

Who was Iarwain Ben-adar?

[Y282]

iarwain ben-adar, eldest, also known as tom bombadil. the enigma.

tell anyone i know this st and i'll deny it.

[ChiChoAndy]

I was so happy when Tom wasn't in the movie. By far the most dreary bit of the book.

[Halb]

I was disappointed with that, but then as it turned out I was disappointed with the films so in the end it didn't matter.
Tom Baker would have been good as Tom Bombadil.

I heard a rumour a while ago that Baksi was gone finish his off.
The best one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings...
Anyone seen this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(1977_film...

[ChiChoAndy]

I remember watching that when I was younger. The Orcs coming at the screen in semi live action, semi colored in, was superb. They never did the third, if I remember. Their gollum was a lot like the gollum in the film, voice and all.

[Halb]

ChiChoAndy said:

I remember watching that when I was younger. The Orcs coming at the screen in semi live action, semi colored in, was superb. They never did the third, if I remember. Their gollum was a lot like the gollum in the film, voice and all.

Yeh that Gollum was also pretty good. PJ lied aboot have seen Bakshi's version, and then backtracked and admitted it had inspired/influenced him. Pissed Bakshi off a little.
John Hurt as the voice of Aragorn hasn't been bettered imo.
It was on last week on sci-fi.

[Y282]

Halb said:

ChiChoAndy said:

I remember watching that when I was younger. The Orcs coming at the screen in semi live action, semi colored in, was superb. They never did the third, if I remember. Their gollum was a lot like the gollum in the film, voice and all.

Yeh that Gollum was also pretty good. PJ lied aboot have seen Bakshi's version, and then backtracked and admitted it had inspired/influenced him. Pissed Bakshi off a little.
John Hurt as the voice of Aragorn hasn't been bettered imo.
It was on last week on sci-fi.

i own the bakshi one. i teach animation so i sometimes use it as an example of flawed/overused techniques. the painting over live action film that he used is called rotoscoping. look at bakshi's wizards for a similar example.

[Halb]

Y282 said:

Halb said:

ChiChoAndy said:

I remember watching that when I was younger. The Orcs coming at the screen in semi live action, semi colored in, was superb. They never did the third, if I remember. Their gollum was a lot like the gollum in the film, voice and all.

Yeh that Gollum was also pretty good. PJ lied aboot have seen Bakshi's version, and then backtracked and admitted it had inspired/influenced him. Pissed Bakshi off a little.
John Hurt as the voice of Aragorn hasn't been bettered imo.
It was on last week on sci-fi.

i own the bakshi one. i teach animation so i sometimes use it as an example of flawed/overused techniques. the painting over live action film that he used is called rotoscoping. look at bakshi's wizards for a similar example.

I like Wizards too.
Good ending.

[Y282]

Halb said:

Y282 said:

Halb said:

ChiChoAndy said:

I remember watching that when I was younger. The Orcs coming at the screen in semi live action, semi colored in, was superb. They never did the third, if I remember. Their gollum was a lot like the gollum in the film, voice and all.

Yeh that Gollum was also pretty good. PJ lied aboot have seen Bakshi's version, and then backtracked and admitted it had inspired/influenced him. Pissed Bakshi off a little.
John Hurt as the voice of Aragorn hasn't been bettered imo.
It was on last week on sci-fi.

i own the bakshi one. i teach animation so i sometimes use it as an example of flawed/overused techniques. the painting over live action film that he used is called rotoscoping. look at bakshi's wizards for a similar example.

I like Wizards too.
Good ending.

isn't it? some proper strange characters in it, i love it.

[Nom de ploom]

I think most people have seen the animated version and as akid I really liked it and wondered why there was never a Hobbit film / animation.

I've recently got the other half into LOTR shes currently reading Fellowship after seeing teh blue ray of all three films AND the extended cuts of all three! (I've told her that we need to watch them again twice with director / writer and cast commentary!)

and she's up for it! result! give it a few months or so though I think...

I did recall clearly sat in the cinema watching fellowship and thinking "this is the book on film".

[Zod]

So is Christopher Lee back as Saruman? It will be quite an acting job to portray him as he was before Sauron corrupted him through the Palantir. There must be hints of his weakness, despite his absolute authority as leader of the White Council.

[Y282]

Zod said:

So is Christopher Lee back as Saruman? It will be quite an acting job to portray him as he was before Sauron corrupted him through the Palantir. There must be hints of his weakness, despite his absolute authority as leader of the White Council.

apparently so. he's getting very frail these days, i hope he lasts!

right, another question (without looking it up!)...

aragorn's mothers name?

[ChiChoAndy]

Y282 said:

apparently so. he's getting very frail these days, i hope he lasts!

right, another question (without looking it up!)...

aragorn's mothers name?

Mum?

[Y282]

ChiChoAndy said:

Y282 said:

apparently so. he's getting very frail these days, i hope he lasts!

right, another question (without looking it up!)...

aragorn's mothers name?

Mum?

GO AND SIT IN THE CORNER.

[Halb]

Y282 said:

apparently so. he's getting very frail these days, i hope he lasts!

right, another question (without looking it up!)...

aragorn's mothers name?

Begins with an 'E'? Pretty sure I know this one...using willpower not to wiki it.

In return, how old was Aragorn when he voluntarily gave up his life?

[ChiChoAndy]

Y282 said:

GO AND SIT IN THE CORNER.

That was her name... Mum...

[Y282]

Halb said:

Begins with an 'E'? Pretty sure I know this one...using willpower not to wiki it.

In return, how old was Aragorn when he voluntarily gave up his life?

Halb, you've got me there. i want to say 134 or 132 or something but i suspect i'm wrong. i'll look it up now.

just done some dodgy maths and got 189!

[Zaxxon]

I just hope there is none of that Atacop atacop nonsence.

Looking forward to PJ's take on the dragon.

[Halb]

Y282 said:

Halb, you've got me there. i want to say 134 or 132 or something but i suspect i'm wrong. i'll look it up now.

just done some dodgy maths and got 189!

How did you work it out...I am fairly sure that depending on how you work it out you get 190/189 or 210.
Just looked at wiki, never knew Tolkien said he was at least 6'6. I knew he was meant to be tall though, I had estimated 6'4....and they get that runt to play him
Some more figures, he is 88 when we meet him and one year younger than Denethor

still can't remember his mum...whom was called mum...what is the first letter?

[The Lukas]

Where have you guys been hiding? Proper Tolkien geeks!

Anyway back on topic of the new Hobbit film: I hope Peter Jackson does an as good job as with the Lord of the Rings; the movie trilogy brought the books to life for me (though flawed in some inescapable ways when compared with the books) and got me hooked on his writings.

The Hobbit will be a success. I'm just interested as to how deep the movies will go, as there is little limit when it comes to Middle-Earth In fact, I think I'm going to pick the book up again after many years.