The Hobbit movie
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Just watched the desolation of Smaug yesterday. Not bad, not as good as I was expecting, a little OTT with the Elves fighting (well, two of them are machines killing hundreds in seconds whilst the rest seemed to find it a lot harder and got killed rather more)....
SPOILER - why the hell didn't Smaug just kill Bilbo and the rest instead of taunting them.
Still, the finale should be rather good I am expecting a lot put it that way...
SPOILER - why the hell didn't Smaug just kill Bilbo and the rest instead of taunting them.
Still, the finale should be rather good I am expecting a lot put it that way...
Troubleatmill said:
Saw the movie yesterday.
For those still to see it:
You will hear throughout the movie that Orc's are bred for war.
They just seem to not be very good at it though.
We are going to watch it at 2 this afternoon (tickets £2.5 at our local cinema!)For those still to see it:
You will hear throughout the movie that Orc's are bred for war.
They just seem to not be very good at it though.
Wife and kids really looking forward to it - I am dreading it, though....
chris watton said:
Troubleatmill said:
Saw the movie yesterday.
For those still to see it:
You will hear throughout the movie that Orc's are bred for war.
They just seem to not be very good at it though.
We are going to watch it at 2 this afternoon (tickets £2.5 at our local cinema!)For those still to see it:
You will hear throughout the movie that Orc's are bred for war.
They just seem to not be very good at it though.
Wife and kids really looking forward to it - I am dreading it, though....
james_tigerwoods said:
£2.50? I'd see it for that... Not much more than that mind..
Ah, just looked, a whopping £3.50 on Weekends!http://www.cinderpal.com/
chris watton said:
james_tigerwoods said:
£2.50? I'd see it for that... Not much more than that mind..
Ah, just looked, a whopping £3.50 on Weekends!http://www.cinderpal.com/
OK, watched it. It was OK, and mercifully a lot shorter than I anticipated.
As other's have mentioned, the set pieces were great, but PJ can't help himself, some of the CGI with Legolass (sp!) goes way too far, even for a fantasy film (much like the Star War prequels with Anakin Skywalker)
ETA - £10.50 for three tickets, and £4.50 for two cokes, one coffee and two lots of popcorn!
As other's have mentioned, the set pieces were great, but PJ can't help himself, some of the CGI with Legolass (sp!) goes way too far, even for a fantasy film (much like the Star War prequels with Anakin Skywalker)
ETA - £10.50 for three tickets, and £4.50 for two cokes, one coffee and two lots of popcorn!
Not read thread, not gonna watch film.
But people may like this?
http://comicbook.com/2014/12/14/watch-hobbit-offic...
But people may like this?
http://comicbook.com/2014/12/14/watch-hobbit-offic...
Jasandjules said:
Just watched the desolation of Smaug yesterday. Not bad, not as good as I was expecting, a little OTT with the Elves fighting (well, two of them are machines killing hundreds in seconds whilst the rest seemed to find it a lot harder and got killed rather more)....
SPOILER - why the hell didn't Smaug just kill Bilbo and the rest instead of taunting them.
Still, the finale should be rather good I am expecting a lot put it that way...
Smaug has obviously been watching old James Bond movies to get an idea of how baddies should behave. He's the Dr Evil of dragons.SPOILER - why the hell didn't Smaug just kill Bilbo and the rest instead of taunting them.
Still, the finale should be rather good I am expecting a lot put it that way...
I watched it Saturday in a slightly empty theater, not surprising seeing as it cost £34 for 2 tickets!
Very disappointed with the Hobbit as a whole, it just didn't need to be a trilogy.
The CGI legoas bit was ridiculous, why was Billy Connolly shoehorned in and CGI'd? Did he phone his performance in? Martin Freeman had next to no lines and I simply didn't feel connected to him as a character. Strange for a film called the Hobbit I thought. 6/10 for the whole trilogy from me, I won't be going out of my way to watch it again. TLOTR though? Love them.
Very disappointed with the Hobbit as a whole, it just didn't need to be a trilogy.
The CGI legoas bit was ridiculous, why was Billy Connolly shoehorned in and CGI'd? Did he phone his performance in? Martin Freeman had next to no lines and I simply didn't feel connected to him as a character. Strange for a film called the Hobbit I thought. 6/10 for the whole trilogy from me, I won't be going out of my way to watch it again. TLOTR though? Love them.
Halmyre said:
Here's an interesting thought experiment - could you edit all three films down to match the book's storyline?
Perhaps a fan edit will be done?I've only watched the first two so far and definitely feel that the trilogy is a stretch too far, the added bits add nothing for me, I just wanted to see The Hobbit on the big screen.
I was at the cinema last night, watching Bladerunner not the Hobbit and there weren't as many people going into the Hobbit as other films, not what you'd expect on opening weekend. The cinema was busy too.
Matt_N said:
Halmyre said:
Here's an interesting thought experiment - could you edit all three films down to match the book's storyline?
Perhaps a fan edit will be done?I've only watched the first two so far and definitely feel that the trilogy is a stretch too far, the added bits add nothing for me, I just wanted to see The Hobbit on the big screen.
I was at the cinema last night, watching Bladerunner not the Hobbit and there weren't as many people going into the Hobbit as other films, not what you'd expect on opening weekend. The cinema was busy too.
Saw this last night. I thought the second film, particularly the second half was an improvement on the first.
OK in isolation and IMO this instalment was decent enough-I could go on for ages but will try to keep it short. Nowadays we seem to have been spoiled with these huge CGI created set pieces so much so it's hard to be impressed so as a result in order to make a good film there has to be a strong plot, character development etc which is where BOFA fails.
I thought the CGI looked off and unfinished at times certainly no improvement from the first films with the first being what nearly 15 years old?
As a fan of the books and the original films-minus the bloody green glowing army of the dead in Return of The King! Why were they intent on getting the Hobbit film series to tie into the LOTR series? A series that has long since been, you could almost understand it if the LOTR series hadn't been made yet.
Having read the Hobbit I know what happens at the end in terms of the treasure, but my wife was asking-"So what happened to X, Y, and Z?"
Ninja physics defying elves-Why?
Also Legolas on running out of arrows drops down onto ridiculously huge ogre type creature, sinking his sword into it's skull is able to use said sword as a joystick of sorts to control it!
Love story-Why did PJ feel he needed to add a love story that in execution just felt forced, and unbelievable. We've spoke a couple of times and we're deeply in love........ Then at the end when he was dead and she was asking why it hurt so much? Pure cheese.
Conveniently placed mountain goats in armour- We saw Billy Connelly ride in on his battle pig but none of this others had a mount. Ridiculous.
Massive CGI created Orcs breed for war-yet dispatched very easily including by a rock threw by a hobbit.
Dues ex machine Eagles make an appearance to conveniently tie thing sup
Other than Thorin to an extent, and Bilbo there weren't any great performances and unlike LOTR where main characters died/were killed I just didn't give two. All in all an OK series that will not be remembered in the same breath as LOTR. Shouldn't have been 3 movies, the BOFA was three chapters long and the film would have served better sticking closer to the books.
6.5/10 for me.
OK in isolation and IMO this instalment was decent enough-I could go on for ages but will try to keep it short. Nowadays we seem to have been spoiled with these huge CGI created set pieces so much so it's hard to be impressed so as a result in order to make a good film there has to be a strong plot, character development etc which is where BOFA fails.
I thought the CGI looked off and unfinished at times certainly no improvement from the first films with the first being what nearly 15 years old?
As a fan of the books and the original films-minus the bloody green glowing army of the dead in Return of The King! Why were they intent on getting the Hobbit film series to tie into the LOTR series? A series that has long since been, you could almost understand it if the LOTR series hadn't been made yet.
Having read the Hobbit I know what happens at the end in terms of the treasure, but my wife was asking-"So what happened to X, Y, and Z?"
Ninja physics defying elves-Why?
Also Legolas on running out of arrows drops down onto ridiculously huge ogre type creature, sinking his sword into it's skull is able to use said sword as a joystick of sorts to control it!
Love story-Why did PJ feel he needed to add a love story that in execution just felt forced, and unbelievable. We've spoke a couple of times and we're deeply in love........ Then at the end when he was dead and she was asking why it hurt so much? Pure cheese.
Conveniently placed mountain goats in armour- We saw Billy Connelly ride in on his battle pig but none of this others had a mount. Ridiculous.
Massive CGI created Orcs breed for war-yet dispatched very easily including by a rock threw by a hobbit.
Dues ex machine Eagles make an appearance to conveniently tie thing sup
Other than Thorin to an extent, and Bilbo there weren't any great performances and unlike LOTR where main characters died/were killed I just didn't give two. All in all an OK series that will not be remembered in the same breath as LOTR. Shouldn't have been 3 movies, the BOFA was three chapters long and the film would have served better sticking closer to the books.
6.5/10 for me.
a311 said:
Saw this last night. I thought the second film, particularly the second half was an improvement on the first.
OK in isolation and IMO this instalment was decent enough-I could go on for ages but will try to keep it short. Nowadays we seem to have been spoiled with these huge CGI created set pieces so much so it's hard to be impressed so as a result in order to make a good film there has to be a strong plot, character development etc which is where BOFA fails.
I thought the CGI looked off and unfinished at times certainly no improvement from the first films with the first being what nearly 15 years old?
As a fan of the books and the original films-minus the bloody green glowing army of the dead in Return of The King! Why were they intent on getting the Hobbit film series to tie into the LOTR series? A series that has long since been, you could almost understand it if the LOTR series hadn't been made yet.
Having read the Hobbit I know what happens at the end in terms of the treasure, but my wife was asking-"So what happened to X, Y, and Z?"
Ninja physics defying elves-Why?
Also Legolas on running out of arrows drops down onto ridiculously huge ogre type creature, sinking his sword into it's skull is able to use said sword as a joystick of sorts to control it!
Love story-Why did PJ feel he needed to add a love story that in execution just felt forced, and unbelievable. We've spoke a couple of times and we're deeply in love........ Then at the end when he was dead and she was asking why it hurt so much? Pure cheese.
Conveniently placed mountain goats in armour- We saw Billy Connelly ride in on his battle pig but none of this others had a mount. Ridiculous.
Massive CGI created Orcs breed for war-yet dispatched very easily including by a rock threw by a hobbit.
Dues ex machine Eagles make an appearance to conveniently tie thing sup
Other than Thorin to an extent, and Bilbo there weren't any great performances and unlike LOTR where main characters died/were killed I just didn't give two. All in all an OK series that will not be remembered in the same breath as LOTR. Shouldn't have been 3 movies, the BOFA was three chapters long and the film would have served better sticking closer to the books.
6.5/10 for me.
I'd agree with this. Saw it last night, and felt I had a sense of Deja vu, of having seen all this in ROTK. The whole trilogy was far too long.OK in isolation and IMO this instalment was decent enough-I could go on for ages but will try to keep it short. Nowadays we seem to have been spoiled with these huge CGI created set pieces so much so it's hard to be impressed so as a result in order to make a good film there has to be a strong plot, character development etc which is where BOFA fails.
I thought the CGI looked off and unfinished at times certainly no improvement from the first films with the first being what nearly 15 years old?
As a fan of the books and the original films-minus the bloody green glowing army of the dead in Return of The King! Why were they intent on getting the Hobbit film series to tie into the LOTR series? A series that has long since been, you could almost understand it if the LOTR series hadn't been made yet.
Having read the Hobbit I know what happens at the end in terms of the treasure, but my wife was asking-"So what happened to X, Y, and Z?"
Ninja physics defying elves-Why?
Also Legolas on running out of arrows drops down onto ridiculously huge ogre type creature, sinking his sword into it's skull is able to use said sword as a joystick of sorts to control it!
Love story-Why did PJ feel he needed to add a love story that in execution just felt forced, and unbelievable. We've spoke a couple of times and we're deeply in love........ Then at the end when he was dead and she was asking why it hurt so much? Pure cheese.
Conveniently placed mountain goats in armour- We saw Billy Connelly ride in on his battle pig but none of this others had a mount. Ridiculous.
Massive CGI created Orcs breed for war-yet dispatched very easily including by a rock threw by a hobbit.
Dues ex machine Eagles make an appearance to conveniently tie thing sup
Other than Thorin to an extent, and Bilbo there weren't any great performances and unlike LOTR where main characters died/were killed I just didn't give two. All in all an OK series that will not be remembered in the same breath as LOTR. Shouldn't have been 3 movies, the BOFA was three chapters long and the film would have served better sticking closer to the books.
6.5/10 for me.
I would give it 5/10. Not the worst film I've ever seen, but just far too drawn out. Less would've been more for The Hobbit.
Mad tekkers from Legolas towards the end though
andyjo1982 said:
I'd agree with this. Saw it last night, and felt I had a sense of Deja vu, of having seen all this in ROTK. The whole trilogy was far too long.
I would give it 5/10. Not the worst film I've ever seen, but just far too drawn out. Less would've been more for The Hobbit.
Mad tekkers from Legolas towards the end though
Lost all the magic of the originals for me. Del Toro who was originally on as director might have offered something a bit different perhaps? Less is more-defiantly. It's been said before but the tone of the Hobbit was completely different to the LOTR, people who've not read the books and only seen the LOTR films may have been a bit confused if they followed the book ore closely but what we ended up with was a bit of a half way house that doesn't really seem to have satisfied anyone? 3 films just came across as greedy to me as soon as I heard.I would give it 5/10. Not the worst film I've ever seen, but just far too drawn out. Less would've been more for The Hobbit.
Mad tekkers from Legolas towards the end though
I've not seen the third film yet and I'm not sure I will - I know there's a distant link to LOTR from The Hobbit but to force it in with the unnecessary Sauron link really got on my nerves.
And let's not even go there with the love story - How much time did Beorn have in the final piece by the way?
And let's not even go there with the love story - How much time did Beorn have in the final piece by the way?
Haven't seen the third film yet and strangely reluctant to go.
I was so let down by the second film, I have loved the book since I was a small child and there were a few scenes which I was really looking forward to and they weren't included!!
A film of three hours and he cut stuff from the book (guess I know how people now felt about the LOTR films which I loved)
I am sure that I will enjoy it when I see it but unlike the LOTR, doubt I will watch again.
I was so let down by the second film, I have loved the book since I was a small child and there were a few scenes which I was really looking forward to and they weren't included!!
A film of three hours and he cut stuff from the book (guess I know how people now felt about the LOTR films which I loved)
I am sure that I will enjoy it when I see it but unlike the LOTR, doubt I will watch again.
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