The Hobbit movie
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te as I expected. What was the 'love story' wedged in there?james_tigerwoods said:
I've not seen the third film yet and I'm not sure I will - I know there's a distant link to LOTR from The Hobbit but to force it in with the unnecessary Sauron link really got on my nerves.
And let's not even go there with the love story - How much time did Beorn have in the final piece by the way?
Went last night with my son. He enjoyed it because of all the CGI fight scenes.And let's not even go there with the love story - How much time did Beorn have in the final piece by the way?
I hated it because of the CGI fight scenes.
I like the extra story dimensions to 'pad' out the story but PJ needs to realise that as fat as effects go, sometimes less is more. The Fellowship of the Ring is by far the best of the LOR films for this reason.
Beorn, blink and you miss him.
Steve
Saw TBOTFA yesterday and as a big admirer of what Jackson did with LOTR, I thought it was terrible. Totally unnecessary drag-out into a third film which added nothing to the original story. No scope either - everything happens at the gates of Erebor.
If you really want to see it, wait for the DVD, it'll only be 3 months away and you will save yourself a packet and not miss anything. They could have made a really pacy 3-hour single film but studios these days insist on everything being multi-part, because they have so few ideas left that they have to cash in on each concept they have.
Really poor IMO.
If you really want to see it, wait for the DVD, it'll only be 3 months away and you will save yourself a packet and not miss anything. They could have made a really pacy 3-hour single film but studios these days insist on everything being multi-part, because they have so few ideas left that they have to cash in on each concept they have.
Really poor IMO.
james_tigerwoods said:
How much time did Beorn have in the final piece by the way?
As far as I remember about 3 seconds when he was dropped into the battle by the eagles. I'm not as disapointed as some,I didn't expect it to stick to the book too much.
I enjoyed it and will get the directors cut DVD next year (as I have the other 5) and watch it a few more times no doubt. I was just a little miffed PJ had to get so stupid with the cgi and also could have done without the dwarf/elf love story pish. I'd give it a 7.5/10
Edited by Mcphisto on Monday 15th December 11:50
saw it last night in 3-D and really enjoyed it but don't expect any faithfulness to the book - which is dissapointing of course, however as a cinematic experience is was very good....
good bits are the obvious effects although the obvious fast cutting can get a bit epilepsy inducing at times....
Armitage's performance was superb I thought which you don't often find in fantasy films.
clearly they were trying to bridge between the hobbit and LOTR - however the thread around gundabad and Tauriel and Legolas popping by for a visit was wasted and added nothing to the narrative, in fact it was confusing...legolas' mother???? WTF? come on....
The importance of DALE was badly handled and confusing....it didn't feel quite right the division of attack between the city and the mountain - needed to be clearer....
blink and you miss Beorn - in the book he kills the goblin hosts' leaders - maybe that will be explained in the dvd commentary btu was a massive departure and effective meant Thorin hardly fought alongisde the other dwarves of the company - they were almost an afterthought and Tolkien brings out the emotion of the passing of Thorin far far better than the film...
sounds liek I'm being very critical but there were celar flaws in the sequencing and events that felt odd....
as a fantasy epic though it was a great watch and 2 and a half hours flew by...for all its' crtiics though the "love" interest actually provided the only real clear emotional connection between characters (aside from Bard and his family - he was also excellent btw) Jackson should have put the emotion forom Taurial and Fili into the Thorin / Bilbo parting....
a missed opportunity there....
8/10
good bits are the obvious effects although the obvious fast cutting can get a bit epilepsy inducing at times....
Armitage's performance was superb I thought which you don't often find in fantasy films.
clearly they were trying to bridge between the hobbit and LOTR - however the thread around gundabad and Tauriel and Legolas popping by for a visit was wasted and added nothing to the narrative, in fact it was confusing...legolas' mother???? WTF? come on....
The importance of DALE was badly handled and confusing....it didn't feel quite right the division of attack between the city and the mountain - needed to be clearer....
blink and you miss Beorn - in the book he kills the goblin hosts' leaders - maybe that will be explained in the dvd commentary btu was a massive departure and effective meant Thorin hardly fought alongisde the other dwarves of the company - they were almost an afterthought and Tolkien brings out the emotion of the passing of Thorin far far better than the film...
sounds liek I'm being very critical but there were celar flaws in the sequencing and events that felt odd....
as a fantasy epic though it was a great watch and 2 and a half hours flew by...for all its' crtiics though the "love" interest actually provided the only real clear emotional connection between characters (aside from Bard and his family - he was also excellent btw) Jackson should have put the emotion forom Taurial and Fili into the Thorin / Bilbo parting....
a missed opportunity there....
8/10
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