Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

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Spice_Weasel

2,286 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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Saw the film last night. Loads of unexplained plot threads that generate lots of questions but entertaining enough. Character development was woeful, with only Shaw being given some substance. Perhaps this was intentional?

The pic above is good but is there one missing? Goo + worm = snake thing?

Were the worms indiginous to the soil of the planet but when mixed with the goo formed the snakes? Or did the goo touching the earth create the worms?


Edited by Spice_Weasel on Friday 29th June 11:55

Spice_Weasel

2,286 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th June 2012
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Saw the film last night. Loads of unexplained plot threads that generate lots of questions but entertaining enough. Character development was woeful, with only Shaw being given some substance. Perhaps this was intentional?

The pic above is good but is there one missing? Goo + worm = snake thing?

Were the worms indiginous to the soil of the planet but when mixed with the goo formed the snakes? Or did the goo touching the earth create the worms?


Edited by Spice_Weasel on Friday 29th June 17:14

dom9

8,092 posts

210 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Finally s this last night.

Better than the 18 (big boy) pages this thread has led me to believe it would be.

Yes it is annoying/ frustrating in places but it really isn't a bad film.

The thing that most annoyed me was the background music though. Seemed far too jolly, frankly!

cardigankid

8,849 posts

213 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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I think that is because it was meant to be an upbeat space exploration film.

A poor or seriously flawed film would not generate a 72 page thread. What is clear is that there is an enormous amount that was unclear or unexplained. However if we were genuinely dealing with space monster DNA do you honestly think that how it worked would be obvious? I suspect not. There would be a lot of very weird mindboggling stuff no doubt. The scientists' lack of a professional approach might also fall into that category. Either way, who here is not going to see the sequel?

I saw it again recently, with the 3D and moving seats at the O2 Arena. 3D yes, ok, and the seats do add something, but they work best when it is subtle. When you get a dramatic kick in the back your instinctive reaction is to turn round and remonstrate with the person sitting behind.

Edited by cardigankid on Friday 29th June 08:10

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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cardigankid said:
I think that is because it was meant to be an upbeat space exploration film.

A poor or seriously flawed film would not generate a 72 page thread. What is clear is that there is an enormous amount that was unclear or unexplained. However if we were genuinely dealing with space monster DNA do you honestly think that how it worked would be obvious? I suspect not. There would be a lot of very weird mindboggling stuff no doubt. The scientists' lack of a professional approach might also fall into that category. Either way, who here is not going to see the sequel?

I saw it again recently, with the 3D and moving seats at the O2 Arena. 3D yes, ok, and the seats do add something, but they work best when it is subtle. When you get a dramatic kick in the back your instinctive reaction is to turn round and remonstrate with the person sitting behind.

Edited by cardigankid on Friday 29th June 08:10
Or it could be because the thought of Ridley returning to Alien canon =

expectation<----------------------------------------------------------------------------->reality

Take away the stunning set and costume design and reasonable CGI and you're left with a very shaky plot, very contrived story elements shoe horned in to make the shaky plot work, and some risible script work. All IMO obviously.

I like most so wanted to love this film, and I think the 72 pages reflects mine and others disappointment of what he delivered.

TankRS

2,850 posts

155 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Spice_Weasel said:
Were the worms indiginous to the soil of the planet but when mixed with the goo formed the snakes? Or did the goo touching the earth create the worms?


Edited by Spice_Weasel on Friday 29th June 17:14
if i remeber correct, the worms were in the soil as they walked into the chamber, before the goo started leaking. so must have been indiginous

which strikes me as odd how the biologist wasnt scanning for any life forms and didnt think of looking at the soil for lifeforms . . . confused

otolith

56,330 posts

205 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TankRS said:
if i remeber correct, the worms were in the soil as they walked into the chamber, before the goo started leaking. so must have been indiginous

which strikes me as odd how the biologist wasnt scanning for any life forms and didnt think of looking at the soil for lifeforms . . . confused
Perhaps worms are unexceptional on that kind of planet, and therefore less interesting than the massive alien space craft?

TankRS

2,850 posts

155 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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otolith said:
Perhaps worms are unexceptional on that kind of planet, and therefore less interesting than the massive alien space craft?
but they didnt know at that point it was a massive alien spaceship wink


ohh and also the biologist didnt see the worms as he ran away all scaredy before the others went in the room rolleyes

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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dom9 said:
Finally s this last night. Better than the 18 (big boy) pages this thread has led me to believe it would be.
You should have read them then, because those 18 pages weren't in praise.biggrin

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Is that an order of parot for halb?

JonRB

74,778 posts

273 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Pesty said:
Is that an order of parrot for halb?
yes I think so. I think he needs to go and stand in the corner and think about what he's done. smile

crofty1984

15,887 posts

205 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Saw it on 3 Imax. I agree with most here.
Spectacular to see, unimpresive to watch.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Spice_Weasel

2,286 posts

254 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TankRS said:
but they didnt know at that point it was a massive alien spaceship wink


ohh and also the biologist didnt see the worms as he ran away all scaredy before the others went in the room rolleyes
Plus the crew had no idea what form of life would be on the planet, exceptional or not. They were however too preoccupied with the structure and finding what it held to notice the worms or even care. Probably.

dtrump

2,121 posts

192 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TankRS said:
but they didnt know at that point it was a massive alien spaceship wink
They should have watched the previews then.
That way they would have known what was going to happen even before they landed wink

crofty1984

15,887 posts

205 months

Saturday 30th June 2012
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...And another thing!
In Alien it was CRT screens and clickety-clack keyboards, in the film set before that, they have flat touchscreens. Doubleyou tea eff?

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 30th June 2012
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You have to forgive them these things. the film was made in 79.

today they make the films to look the best they can.

those things are not a problem for me.

the rest of the film is

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 30th June 2012
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Or like in Alien³ with the hugeass VHS home video tape recorders, instead of something that would most likely be the size of a pen on your finger, or helmet?hehe
Yeah it can be forgiven.
It's nice when they try and envisage the future though.

JonRB

74,778 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th June 2012
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crofty1984 said:
...And another thing!
In Alien it was CRT screens and clickety-clack keyboards, in the film set before that, they have flat touchscreens. Doubleyou tea eff?
You could rationalise that by simply retconning the Nostromo to be a museum piece.

Although Ridley Scott's official justification is "meh. Deal with it".

Raify

6,552 posts

249 months

Saturday 30th June 2012
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JonRB said:
You could rationalise that by simply retconning the Nostromo to be a museum piece.

Although Ridley Scott's official justification is "meh. Deal with it".
Nostromo was a knackered commercial towing vehicle, Prometheus is a "multi trillion dollar mission". It's not the biggest leap of faith in the film.