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TEKNOPUG
7,466 posts
74 months
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garyhun said: As a matter of interest do we KNOW that it was a military installation? I know they kept saying it was and that the black stuff was a WMD but I'm still questioning that - or did I miss something? The characters worked out that it was a military installation and that it was a WMD intended to be sent to Earth............which was a pretty massive leap of imagination on their part, based on the evidence in front of them. Even more so that they should all agree on this and then all their future actions would be determined by this fact? Surely it would have been better to leave it with the crew not knowing what it is, which would have been more realistic and made more sense? It would also allow the audience to come up with their own ideas and conclusions. These questions could be later explored and answered in sequels or at least expanded upon. The script is very contrived in it's narration of the story.
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rhinochopig
16,050 posts
67 months
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TEKNOPUG said: The characters worked out that it was a military installation and that it was a WMD intended to be sent to Earth............which was a pretty massive leap of imagination on their part, based on the evidence in front of them. Even more so that they should all agree on this and then all their future actions would be determined by this [i]fact[i/]?
Surely it would have been better to leave it with the crew not knowing what it is, which would have been more realistic and made more sense? It would also allow the audience to come up with their own ideas and conclusions. These questions could be later explored and answered in sequels or at least expanded upon. The script is very contrived in it's narration of the story. But then how would they have justified the crew ramming the spaceship - big SFX finale - the spaceship rolling over blonde girl, and the Engineer impregnation scene. Like I said: like a 2 year old furiously ramming a square peg into a round hole.
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The Beaver King
3,552 posts
64 months
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garyhun said: As a matter of interest do we KNOW that it was a military installation? I know they kept saying it was and that the black stuff was a WMD but I'm still questioning that - or did I miss something? It was implied by the captain, but never resolved. I guess the fact the black stuff mutated living things and the base had thousands of those canisters kind of pushed that theory. There is a lot of stuff in the film that is either not answered or they hinted at its purpose and you just have to accept it. There are quite a few: - Was the engineering definitely going to Earth to destroy it?
- What David said to the engineer to cause it to attack?
- Why the ancient drawings on Earth would direct you to an alien military installation?
- What killed the engineers?
- Why did David infect Holloway?
- Is Vickers an android?
and no doubt more... It's just occured to me. With regards to the engineers going to destroy Earth and the reasoning behind it, could it be possible the engineers purposely left markings on Earth that lead to the planet so that once humanity reached the techological level required to get there, it was time to 'sterilise the petri dish'? Assuming it was all just an 'because we can' experiment, they wouldn't want humanity evolving too far that they lost control so they set it all up and used reaching the planet as a benchmark to judge when it was time to kill humanity before it went too far? Another theory anyway.... 
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Halb
17,859 posts
52 months
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The Beaver King said: It was implied by the captain, but never resolved. Considering their accuracy rate, if he was right about that, it was the only thing any of the crew were right about.
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garyhun
13,992 posts
97 months
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Halb said: The Beaver King said: It was implied by the captain, but never resolved. Considering their accuracy rate, if he was right about that, it was the only thing any of the crew were right about. They sure screwed up that roller-coaster ride too!
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chris watton
12,362 posts
129 months
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I think the twist must be that the whole crew actually escaped from a mental asylum, and killed the original crew. How else can the dumb actions be explained?
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hedgefinder
1,425 posts
39 months
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i think the largest jump of belief was arriving at the exact destination on a huge planet and immediately flying over an alien installation, no survey from orbit, nothing..
The rest of the movie is, as others have said a bit of a mess, and if it wasnt just badly edited then it was simply badly written.
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Pesty
25,857 posts
125 months
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The Beaver King said: - Why the ancient drawings on Earth would direct you to an alien military installation?
It's just occured to me. With regards to the engineers going to destroy Earth and the reasoning behind it, could it be possible the engineers purposely left markings on Earth that lead to the planet so that once humanity reached the techological level required to get there, it was time to 'sterilise the petri dish'? Assuming it was all just an 'because we can' experiment, they wouldn't want humanity evolving too far that they lost control so they set it all up and used reaching the planet as a benchmark to judge when it was time to kill humanity before it went too far? Another theory anyway.... What did you join the army for navigator to fight sir. well good news and bad news. good news you may well get to deliver a WMD great whats the bad news well you have to be there for 2 million years on a rock in the middle of nowhere just in case an experiment evolves enough that we need to destroy them but sir what if they never evolve that far?
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DrTre
12,428 posts
101 months
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It's a beautiful looking and fantastically realised crock of appallingly written s  t is what it is.
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JonRB
39,456 posts
141 months
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hedgefinder said: i think the largest jump of belief was arriving at the exact destination on a huge planet and immediately flying over an alien installation, no survey from orbit, nothing..
The rest of the movie is, as others have said a bit of a mess, and if it wasnt just badly edited then it was simply badly written. On that point, an extra 2 mins would have solved that. Just show the Prometheus in orbit with David scanning the surface, and *then* have him wake the crew.
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rhinochopig
16,050 posts
67 months
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JonRB said: hedgefinder said: i think the largest jump of belief was arriving at the exact destination on a huge planet and immediately flying over an alien installation, no survey from orbit, nothing..
The rest of the movie is, as others have said a bit of a mess, and if it wasnt just badly edited then it was simply badly written. On that point, an extra 2 mins would have solved that. Just show the Prometheus in orbit with David scanning the surface, and *then* have him wake the crew. Whilst he was doing that he could have created a better plot and script too.
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slartibartfast
2,734 posts
70 months
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The Beaver King said: - What David said to the engineer to cause it to attack?
My thoughts are that the engineer realized that David was synthetic and that we had come to such an advanced stage of evolution that WE are now the gods!....and he didn't like the idea of this.
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KaraK
10,610 posts
78 months
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The Beaver King said: - What David said to the engineer to cause it to attack?
That answer and more covered here
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slartibartfast
2,734 posts
70 months
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KaraK said: The Beaver King said: - What David said to the engineer to cause it to attack?
That answer and more covered here funny as f k
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Johnny
4,476 posts
153 months
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slartibartfast said: KaraK said: The Beaver King said: - What David said to the engineer to cause it to attack?
That answer and more covered here funny as f k Thats's f king quality 
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DamienB
721 posts
88 months
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JonRB
39,456 posts
141 months
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KaraK said: That answer and more covered hereUsually HISHE is brilliant, but that one seemed a little weak.
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KaraK
10,610 posts
78 months
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JonRB said: KaraK said: That answer and more covered hereUsually HISHE is brilliant, but that one seemed a little weak. Agreed it's not their best it just seemed pertinent If you haven't seen it yet the Terminator one is fantastic 
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Pesty
25,857 posts
125 months
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JonRB
39,456 posts
141 months
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KaraK said: If you haven't seen it yet the Terminator one is fantastic Oh yes totally. That one is brilliant. As is the Iron Man one when he is talking to Superman and Batman in the diner.
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