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Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...

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The Hypno-Toad

8,582 posts

107 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Hear that noise? Its the sound of every geek on the planets head exploding...

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/22925/has-the-prom...

SWoll

5,271 posts

160 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Hear that noise? Its the sound of every geek on the planets head exploding...

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/22925/has-the-prom...
rofl

Talk about desperate. Ridley should be ashamed of himself descending to lazy viral marketing like this in an attempt to genreate some sort of greatness by association.

BR is one of the finest SF movies ever made, why sully it's memory by linking it in any way with the turd that is Prometheus FFS?


Just another reason to dislike it I suppose.

fuelracer496

1,550 posts

138 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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I saw it at the cinema and picked up the 9 disc set yesterday, of course my opinion might be wrong, but I thought it was excellent overall. I didn't expect it to be a direct Alien prequel, and it isn't. There's 30 odd years between the end of Prometheus and the first Alien film. Plot holes are fun to find, and all the science that proves it's wrong, is probably valid, but I don't watch films to pick fault with them (I couldn't do any better).

There's probably another film or 2 needed to bring things 'upto date' as it were to get to Alien as we know it, but I don't mind that. From a technical stand point, the picture quality, sound quality and overall package on the 3D Blu-ray is utterly superb. The opening 10 minutes are top notch demo material to show off the beauty of the Blu-ray format.

I guess it's one of those marmite films, a bit like Inception, where 50% of people enjoy it, and 50% think it's a stupid film trying to be clever. I think the sequel to Prometheus will be critical to bridging the gap, and filling in 30 years of Xenomorph evolution, but that is probably what folks expected Prometheus to do in the first place.

SWoll

5,271 posts

160 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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fuelracer496 said:
I saw it at the cinema and picked up the 9 disc set yesterday, of course my opinion might be wrong, but I thought it was excellent overall. I didn't expect it to be a direct Alien prequel, and it isn't. There's 30 odd years between the end of Prometheus and the first Alien film. Plot holes are fun to find, and all the science that proves it's wrong, is probably valid, but I don't watch films to pick fault with them (I couldn't do any better).

There's probably another film or 2 needed to bring things 'upto date' as it were to get to Alien as we know it, but I don't mind that. From a technical stand point, the picture quality, sound quality and overall package on the 3D Blu-ray is utterly superb. The opening 10 minutes are top notch demo material to show off the beauty of the Blu-ray format.

I guess it's one of those marmite films, a bit like Inception, where 50% of people enjoy it, and 50% think it's a stupid film trying to be clever. I think the sequel to Prometheus will be critical to bridging the gap, and filling in 30 years of Xenomorph evolution, but that is probably what folks expected Prometheus to do in the first place.
The difference with Inception IMHO is that 50% of people liked the concept/story and 50% of people didn't. I don't think the quality of the cast, script, direction or acting was ever the problem with that movie in anyones eyes, unlike Prometheus.

I would agree that Prometheus is technically excellent and I imagine will look lovely on BR. A shame that everything else was so awful.

Of course you have your own opinion on the film and enjoyed it and I'm happy for you. Just don't assume that a lot of people didn't because of unrealistic expectations or a lack of thought.

P.S 9 Discs? WTF?

arfur

2,915 posts

116 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Watched this on BR last night ...

A bit swiss cheese, but an entertaining movie all the same to watch at home ...

The last two deleted scenes on the BR should have been in the movie


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fuelracer496

1,550 posts

138 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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There's a 9 disc set available, which includes all the previous Alien films, plus a 3D & 2D disc for Prometheus, some postcards, poster, tshirt (geek on!). I got it as I didn't get round to buying the Quadrilogy when that was released.


Edited by fuelracer496 on Tuesday 9th October 12:33

garyhun

18,878 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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So after 21 pages .... IS it a prequel to Alien? The engineer's ship at the end - same one from Alien or another film needed for that with an engineer with ruptured rib cage?

Confused of Dorset!

Halb

29,072 posts

85 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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I do think Prometheus looks fantastic, like a beautifully garnished cak sandwich.
Shiny and luscious, glistening with promise and inducing the taste buds to excrete saliva at at hosepipe rate, and then you prize your jaws wide, chomp down with all your might and the foetid brown liquid bile explodes in your mouth and dribbles down your chin and the stench engulfs your senses and you wretch spasmodically all over everyone.

smile

JonRB

48,428 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Halb said:
I do think Prometheus looks fantastic, like a beautifully garnished cak sandwich.
Shiny and luscious, glistening with promise and inducing the taste buds to excrete saliva at at hosepipe rate, and then you prize your jaws wide, chomp down with all your might and the foetid brown liquid bile explodes in your mouth and dribbles down your chin and the stench engulfs your senses and you wretch spasmodically all over everyone.

smile


"God darnit, Mr. Halb, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whcensorede"

wink

funkyrobot

10,986 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Could someone spoiler tag a quick description of the deleted scenes? smile

Bedazzled

10,843 posts

123 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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No amount of deleted scenes will make up for "awww, look at the little alien snake thingy, it's so beautiful, come on little 'un... coochie-coochie-coo... oops... yikes... aaaargh!"

Still enjoyed it though smile

Oakey

18,963 posts

118 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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garyhun said:
So after 21 pages .... IS it a prequel to Alien? The engineer's ship at the end - same one from Alien or another film needed for that with an engineer with ruptured rib cage?

Confused of Dorset!
I was going to say, after all the protesting from Scott that this wasn't really a prequel to the Alien films they release a boxset that includes those films? And then when Prometheus 2 comes out you can buy the new new box set.

TonyHetherington

32,078 posts

152 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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garyhun said:
So after 21 pages .... IS it a prequel to Alien? The engineer's ship at the end - same one from Alien or another film needed for that with an engineer with ruptured rib cage?
The final 'crash' site IS the one from Aliens. With the engineer with the ruptured rib cage. However, it looks slightly different but it's the same setup exactly.

However, it's absolutely NOT a prequel to Alien. However it involves all the exact same creatures, and the blu-ray disc comes bundled with the Alien triology. And it's by the same bloke. But it most definitely is NOT a prequel to Alien. Oh and the titles come up the same at the beginning too.

Hope it's cleared that up biggrin

garyhun

18,878 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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TonyHetherington said:
garyhun said:
So after 21 pages .... IS it a prequel to Alien? The engineer's ship at the end - same one from Alien or another film needed for that with an engineer with ruptured rib cage?
The final 'crash' site IS the one from Aliens. With the engineer with the ruptured rib cage. However, it looks slightly different but it's the same setup exactly.

However, it's absolutely NOT a prequel to Alien. However it involves all the exact same creatures, and the blu-ray disc comes bundled with the Alien triology. And it's by the same bloke. But it most definitely is NOT a prequel to Alien. Oh and the titles come up the same at the beginning too.

Hope it's cleared that up biggrin
Clear as mud. So if the engineer at the end of Prometheus, the one who attacks bimbo spacelady, was the one flying the ship that crashes, surely that leaves no-one in the pilot seat for an alien to erupt from?

I need to sit down!

TonyHetherington

32,078 posts

152 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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It was at the cinema I saw it, not recently, but I think the alien could still come from the engineer that crashed the space ship at the end?

My memory is fuzzy on this - but anything that ended up in the human ship at the end, that didn't come out of the engineer did it?!

im

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34,302 posts

119 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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The surrounding topography of the 2 crashed ships is entirely different.

garyhun

18,878 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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im said:
The surrounding topography of the 2 crashed ships is entirely different.
Very true. I hope these things do get answered in PM2.

arfur

2,915 posts

116 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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TonyHetherington said:
It was at the cinema I saw it, not recently, but I think the alien could still come from the engineer that crashed the space ship at the end?

My memory is fuzzy on this - but anything that ended up in the human ship at the end, that didn't come out of the engineer did it?!
On the BR disc I watched last night the Engineer does indeed explode at the end and an alien that looks very very very much like "Alien" pops out ... Roll credits

TonyHetherington

32,078 posts

152 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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im said:
The surrounding topography of the 2 crashed ships is entirely different.
I assumed that was because it was many years later?

Northern Munkee

4,533 posts

102 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Well if the extras on BR disc are not just a clever promo tool there's a memo from Weyland suggesting they scanned the system before setting off, were keeping quiet about a "signal" coming from a different moon in the system called LV426, and not mentioning it to Shaw.

Have to say I missed it at the cinema, and was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it compared to the disappointment (after all the hype) about the cinema release.

And I hope the do a PM2. Thought fassbender stole the show. Did a perfect job creating a character that could have been the walking talking embodiment of HAL9000, with nods to Spielberg's AI but much better, and cleverly coloured with a robot's Peter OToole TE Lawrence impression. Idris Elbe was a bit weak, indeed everyone else incomparison to a degree.