Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...
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im said:
Sorry, but hadn't the cartographer Geologist already wandered off when he was informed that the storm was about to hit? Didn't they decide that it was therefore too late for them to make it back to the ship in time?
They left to make their way back before the others. The others got back in time they didn't because they got lost. They wouldnt have got lost because they have state of the art map making tools which they know about. and they have constant 2 way communication which could have guided them backIsn't that so or are you going to tell me they left afterwoods?
Ok and you keep being smart with your strikethroughs because i was lasy posting calling him the map maker We all know he was a geologist...
But IIRC he called the little robots his babies or something like that. He was more to that process than just a general laborer carrying them around.
I notice you have ignored all comments about his behaviour and that he would not be there in the first place.
The film was s
t and it is chock full of imropbable behaviour.Edited by Pesty on Sunday 14th October 17:31
Pesty said:
im said:
Sorry, but hadn't the cartographer Geologist already wandered off when he was informed that the storm was about to hit? Didn't they decide that it was therefore too late for them to make it back to the ship in time?
They left to make their way back before the others. The others got back in time they didnt because they got lost.OK, "I get that you don't like the film"
No rush???
Apart from the fact they were stting themselves so wouldn't want to wander around longer than they had to.
So yes there were in a rush
Or do you think its normal to hang around a place when you are bricking it?
They left because they were scared/freaked so a call on teh radio
"captain guide us out quick, we aint staying here"
Apart from the fact they were s
tting themselves so wouldn't want to wander around longer than they had to.So yes there were in a rush
Or do you think its normal to hang around a place when you are bricking it?
They left because they were scared/freaked so a call on teh radio
"captain guide us out quick, we aint staying here"
Bedazzled said:
chris watton said:
I have now watched the film three times - once at the cinema and twice on DVD - the plot and the totally irrational/non-professional behaviour of the crew still spoils it. A film cannot be enjoyable on the basis of fine CGI alone - didn't Scott learn this from Lucas?
Why did you buy it then you silly sausage 
Plus, as I have every other Alien/predator film, it doesn't hurt to spent the £8 to add it to my digital library....
Pesty said:
I notice you have ignored all comments about his behaviour and that he would not be there in the first place.
No, thats your 1 criticism thats made sense, his characterization of a geologist is...improbable...to say the least and it would be interesting to hear the thought-process Ridley (or whoever) used to create his personality.im said:
No, thats your 1 criticism thats made sense, his characterization of a geologist is...improbable...to say the least and it would be interesting to hear the thought-process Ridley (or whoever) used to create his personality.
we'll have to agree to disagree on that then. "The 1" not me making sense 
That's the main issue for me. The characters, I will suspend my disbelief in many a poor thought out film and not sit there and go 'As if'.
With this film I just can't help it. And he wasn't the only poorly thought out character.
They were all poor. I don't mind unanswered questions in films, in fact I prefer them that way.
I don't need to know what or why fasbender put in the drink or what made the engineer go bats
t but if the guy is acting like a dick then yeah I want to know why a fish appears in his eye or why being infected makes your back bend in half.I watched this last night on Blu Ray.
I thought it was pretty good. Enjoyable sci-fi.
It wasn't "the classic" one might have hoped for...but good.
To be honest it did all make sense to me - apart from when Shaw has thirty second of oxygen left, then one quick visit to the lifeboat means she has plenty without ever getting any...
I loved how they didn't tell you Vickers was an android: but likely was...lots of revelations still to come in the sequel.
I thought it was pretty good. Enjoyable sci-fi.
It wasn't "the classic" one might have hoped for...but good.
To be honest it did all make sense to me - apart from when Shaw has thirty second of oxygen left, then one quick visit to the lifeboat means she has plenty without ever getting any...
I loved how they didn't tell you Vickers was an android: but likely was...lots of revelations still to come in the sequel.
Just gotta say, I am surprised that there are people out there ready defend this film, which, given its pedigree, is quite shocking – let’s face it, it has characters that would have been seen as a tad OTT from the all brawn/no brains films from the ‘80’s! You cannot relate to any of them – they are all so stupid. This is the problem with the film – the characters acted the polar opposite of what we imagined they would – way too many WTF moments.
Yes – it is enjoyable, but also very flawed and we all know it should have been a zillion times better - given the director and huge budget!
Perhaps we give too much credit to the ‘old guard’ now, perhaps they’re not half as good as we once thought they were, I don’t know, but the sheer amount of disappointing new movies coming out of Hollywood signals to me that something’s amiss – or they have just given up and going after the quick bucks.
Yes – it is enjoyable, but also very flawed and we all know it should have been a zillion times better - given the director and huge budget!
Perhaps we give too much credit to the ‘old guard’ now, perhaps they’re not half as good as we once thought they were, I don’t know, but the sheer amount of disappointing new movies coming out of Hollywood signals to me that something’s amiss – or they have just given up and going after the quick bucks.
chris watton said:
Just gotta say, I am surprised that there are people out there ready defend this film, which, given its pedigree, is quite shocking – let’s face it, it has characters that would have been seen as a tad OTT from the all brawn/no brains films from the ‘80’s! You cannot relate to any of them – they are all so stupid. This is the problem with the film – the characters acted the polar opposite of what we imagined they would – way too many WTF moments.
Yes – it is enjoyable, but also very flawed and we all know it should have been a zillion times better - given the director and huge budget!
Perhaps we give too much credit to the ‘old guard’ now, perhaps they’re not half as good as we once thought they were, I don’t know, but the sheer amount of disappointing new movies coming out of Hollywood signals to me that something’s amiss – or they have just given up and going after the quick bucks.
I agree, Chris. Yes – it is enjoyable, but also very flawed and we all know it should have been a zillion times better - given the director and huge budget!
Perhaps we give too much credit to the ‘old guard’ now, perhaps they’re not half as good as we once thought they were, I don’t know, but the sheer amount of disappointing new movies coming out of Hollywood signals to me that something’s amiss – or they have just given up and going after the quick bucks.
The people saying "What is the problem? I enjoyed it. I didn't see any problems" have crashingly (and depressingly) low expectations. I have some magic beans for sale if they would like to buy them.
I was in two minds whether to buy the DCD after reading the earlier comments on this thread but Friday the film came up in conversation with some friends so bought it.
The plot holes were irritating, especially after having them pointed out beforehand. According to a friend, Scotland was under miles of ice 3500 years ago so that cave location was a bit iffy. That said, I found the silly religious overtones most disengaging.
If they are going to suggest evolution doesn't exist then they needed to come up with a theory rather than bit of stuff in the water. The mention of Darwinism is always a sop to the Americans as if it was synonymous with evolution. Silly.
Then the cross. Either explain what it was all about or leave it out, preferably the latter. The washing of the feet theme could have been thee throughout the film but brought in when it was it was rather empty.
Visuals were state of the art without being particularly exceptional.
It was disappointing, doubly so as it could have been so much more involving. Overall a 5 out of 10. Or, to put it another way, wait until the price drops to £5 to get your money's worth.
The plot holes were irritating, especially after having them pointed out beforehand. According to a friend, Scotland was under miles of ice 3500 years ago so that cave location was a bit iffy. That said, I found the silly religious overtones most disengaging.
If they are going to suggest evolution doesn't exist then they needed to come up with a theory rather than bit of stuff in the water. The mention of Darwinism is always a sop to the Americans as if it was synonymous with evolution. Silly.
Then the cross. Either explain what it was all about or leave it out, preferably the latter. The washing of the feet theme could have been thee throughout the film but brought in when it was it was rather empty.
Visuals were state of the art without being particularly exceptional.
It was disappointing, doubly so as it could have been so much more involving. Overall a 5 out of 10. Or, to put it another way, wait until the price drops to £5 to get your money's worth.
Bedazzled said:
Yes the characters could be a lot better, but it's a fun action sci-fi not some high brow Kubrick classic.
It is what it is. If you like popcorn sci-fi like Battleship, Cowboys & Aliens, etc you'll enjoy it.
It's meant to be a Scott classic, not a Cowboys and Aliens type film, instead Scott has badly misjudged it.It is what it is. If you like popcorn sci-fi like Battleship, Cowboys & Aliens, etc you'll enjoy it.
Made me look over his back catalogue and wonder if he is so great. For myself, he has made more duffers and also rans than decent films. Which was strange as in my head I had this idea of him as a great director. I think a lot of that rests on a couple of films.
crazy about cars said:
Just watched this and I'm totally blown away! Not many movies can make me feel this way lately but this is definitely it. It's just something about the whole package that makes it a very enjoyable movie to watch.
Amazes me how much this film seems to be polarising opinion.I genuinely don't think I could have been more disappointed with it. It would be very interesting to get a favourite film list from posters on both sides of the debate as I'm struggling to understand how people like cac above can be so effusive about it...
Halb said:
Bedazzled said:
Yes the characters could be a lot better, but it's a fun action sci-fi not some high brow Kubrick classic.
It is what it is. If you like popcorn sci-fi like Battleship, Cowboys & Aliens, etc you'll enjoy it.
It's meant to be a Scott classic, not a Cowboys and Aliens type film, instead Scott has badly misjudged it.It is what it is. If you like popcorn sci-fi like Battleship, Cowboys & Aliens, etc you'll enjoy it.
Made me look over his back catalogue and wonder if he is so great. For myself, he has made more duffers and also rans than decent films. Which was strange as in my head I had this idea of him as a great director. I think a lot of that rests on a couple of films.
Edited by SWoll on Sunday 14th October 22:16
SWoll said:
y2blade said:
On the flipside.
I can't understand how some people seem to hate this film so much.
No hate, just pure disappointment and bewilderment TBH.I can't understand how some people seem to hate this film so much.
MissB and Myself really enjoyed it, I'm glad she picked it up today as I was in two minds whether to bother with it after all the sour reviews on here.
Saw this on the plane recently and it was just OK. Nowhere near as good as even the first Alien Movie for me. It had some nice effects and was tense but lacked alot of the feeling of the other movies. Noomi was pretty awful as lead lady too and nowhere near as good as in the Girl With Dragon Tattoo series.
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