Prometheus - Ridley Scott's 'Alien Prequel' (or not)...
Discussion
Mikeyboy said:
im said:
Yeah, I agree 100%.
I saw the interview with Ridley at Comic Con where he said that if he didn't scare the bejeezus out of us then he'll have failed - or words to that effect.
Sorry, but with today's sophisticated audiences you can't scare an adult with a PG-13. Perhaps they'll be 2 versions of this film.
Disagree, The Exorcist would probably get a PG-13 these days, admittedly at a push. No gore, no nudity and not much swearing. The crcifx scene might be a problem though. Thats a scary filmI saw the interview with Ridley at Comic Con where he said that if he didn't scare the bejeezus out of us then he'll have failed - or words to that effect.
Sorry, but with today's sophisticated audiences you can't scare an adult with a PG-13. Perhaps they'll be 2 versions of this film.
Alien is also scary and has even less of those things and would probably be a 13 too.
Scary is not gore, its suggestion.
No chance. If you took out all of the scenes required to make it such you'd barely have a film at all.
Of course previous era films will get a lower classification as the years roll by but there is point at which the public WILL NEVER accept a film being fit for a 13 year old.
The original Alien would be/is a cert 15 today but will never be a PG-13 in its current (scary) form.
Show me a film that was proper scary (not Girly scary) at the time of release that was cert 13 at the time of its release.
Oh I dunno...all looks OK to me. Ridley's such a good director that I suspect the characters 'look' the way they do for a reason.
Perhaps they've all just awoken from hypersleep, had a shower, tarted themselves up and gone exploring. I suspect as the film develops they'll start to look more and more haggard.
Also, I am quite impressed with that cavern and the stone head - it does have a creepy vibe to it.
I'm just prayin' to good its not a PG13.
About the spacesuits...
If the script rumours are correct, aren't they all semi-military (or at least 'officialdom' in some respect) personnel in the film? More like AlienS than Alien where they were miners (or whatever).
Perhaps they've all just awoken from hypersleep, had a shower, tarted themselves up and gone exploring. I suspect as the film develops they'll start to look more and more haggard.
Also, I am quite impressed with that cavern and the stone head - it does have a creepy vibe to it.
I'm just prayin' to good its not a PG13.
About the spacesuits...
If the script rumours are correct, aren't they all semi-military (or at least 'officialdom' in some respect) personnel in the film? More like AlienS than Alien where they were miners (or whatever).
Edited by im on Wednesday 23 November 10:09
hornetrider said:
No need to defend it because it's your thread mate.
"Oh no, its my baby, please don't hurt my baby!" 
You don't half talk some twaddle HR
If its crap its crap but, IMHO, the pictures don't really tell us much. Can't imagine Ridley would make a film with squeeky clean TV-Movie style characters as a prequel to his seminal Alien film though.
hornetrider said:
Nowhere near enough sweat, grime or lived in kit....or crusty blood.
Those shots all look like they are taken in the 'exploratory' phase of the film - before it all kicks off.ETA: Ridley says "Fans of the original Alien will definitely notice some things, especially toward the end. But I really can't say any more than that."
If the script in the Opening Post is correct then...
...it's probably the crashed/derelict alien ship.
Edited by im on Wednesday 23 November 11:59
Comment from someone who purports to know a little about these photos and in particular his comment on the 1st picture in my post, the one with all 3 of them looking ahead with torches...
"commits the sin of having actors faces Photoshop manipulated to the degree that it looks like someone just cut out faces from a magazine and stuck them on other people’s bodies. We are nearing the year 2012 and with the amount of money studios like Fox put into making these damn movies, you would think they would spend a few more dollars to make the all important early promotional work come across better than this?"
Fair comment I suppose. The insinuation is that these are effectively faked or at the very least manipulated beyond what we'll actually see on-screen.
"commits the sin of having actors faces Photoshop manipulated to the degree that it looks like someone just cut out faces from a magazine and stuck them on other people’s bodies. We are nearing the year 2012 and with the amount of money studios like Fox put into making these damn movies, you would think they would spend a few more dollars to make the all important early promotional work come across better than this?"
Fair comment I suppose. The insinuation is that these are effectively faked or at the very least manipulated beyond what we'll actually see on-screen.
Rich_W said:
Could'nt really make out too much from that but...the 'feel' of it seemed to be what I'd expect.
Certainly more in line with what I'd expect than the pictures I posted.
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It may not be, it may be a hoax but it does sound very plausible apparently.
I've not read it but someone who has says its really quite an intriging storyline and if its not the actual the plot then perhaps it should have been.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants...
It may not be, it may be a hoax but it does sound very plausible apparently.
I've not read it but someone who has says its really quite an intriging storyline and if its not the actual the plot then perhaps it should have been.
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Ridley Scott: 'Alien felt epic, but this one is Epic'
The next issue of UK magazine Empire features an article on Prometheus, with an interview with the movie's head man, Sir Ridley Scott.
The issue doesn't hit shelves until December 20th, but here's the gist.
"He was marvellous, but he’s cooked,” laughs 74 year old Ridley Scott of the Nostromo’s unforgettable chestbursting stowaway. “He’s now got an orange in his mouth.” What Alien’s famous director wants to make clear, as post production on his much-vaunted $100 million, 3D return to the science-fiction genre, draws close, is that he has gone back to the universe of his groundbreaking classic, but he’s also moved on. “I felt there was still life in the old sod, but it has evolved into something else. To stick to the story, you don’t really get it until about eight minutes from the end.” Deep down in its scaly heart, Prometheus is an Alien prequel, but not as we know it.
It certainly embraces the Alien aesthetic; that biomechanoid phantasmagoria born of H.R. Gigers pervy art and his director’s unerring eye. “It does,” agrees Scott “,but it’s also different…” This is as much a metter of scope as anything. With a much bigger budget, Scott has been utlising all the tools availible to him: high-end digital effects (“Avatar set the bar high”), filming in 3D (“You engage more, you’re drawn in”) and building massive Giger-esque sets across Pinewood that oozed the atmosphere that defined his career (“I still believe in putting in the proscenium”)
The cast went giddy at the belly-of-the-beast effect of the giant sets. If Alien was a souped-up B-Movie, then Prometheus is a biblical epic. “Alien felt epic,” says Scott “, but this one is Epic.”
Barring a beach scene in the long cut of Alien 3, the new film will feature the franchise’s first genuine exterior, with Iceland’s black lava fields providing the new planet’s hardscrabble surface (LV-426 was created on a soundstage). Thematically, too, it’s gone big. This is God versus Science, and the survival of not just the crew (most of whom probably don’t) but mankind itself. In other words, there is a whole 2001-vibe going on. “It’s gone off in a new direction,” boasts Scott “, but I promise it will engage you in the first five minutes.”
The script, written by Jon Spaihts and Lost’s Damon Lindelof, based on “one single thought” Scott drew from the original, initially follows a familiar arc. The crew of the Prometheus (the ship’s name designed to echo the Greek myth) follow a perplexing message to a planet that will open their eyes and their chests to a new alien race. “A crew of scientists embark on a journey somebody else is paying for,” says the director, referring to the fact Charlize Theron’s Meredith Vickers is a “suit” for a certain Weyland-Yutani. Meanwhile, Michael Fassbender may or may not be an early model of Ash’s android and may or may not be trustworthy. And Noomi Rapace’s archaeologist heroine, Elizabeth Shaw – a spiritual cousin to “Rippers” – is one half of a conflicted couple of Logan Marshall-Green’s Holloway: “One comes from a position of faith, and the other is pure scientist,” details Scott. Both are going to have a lot to swallow.
Even at the time of Alien, some 32 years ago, Scott mentioned he was interested in exploring the origins of the ‘Space Jockey’, the dead pilot of the derelict “space croissant”. He talked about bioengineering and biological warfare as potential themes. Has he been able to satisfy his curiosity in that respect? “Definitely.” And what significance can we draw from the pictures slowly being released, especially the giant humanoid ‘head’ that looms over what Scott terms the “ampule chamber”? “Oh there’s a lot more to it,” he says wafting explanations away, “I’ve locked up all the sweet stuff…” Including something familiar, perhaps?
The next issue of UK magazine Empire features an article on Prometheus, with an interview with the movie's head man, Sir Ridley Scott.
The issue doesn't hit shelves until December 20th, but here's the gist.
"He was marvellous, but he’s cooked,” laughs 74 year old Ridley Scott of the Nostromo’s unforgettable chestbursting stowaway. “He’s now got an orange in his mouth.” What Alien’s famous director wants to make clear, as post production on his much-vaunted $100 million, 3D return to the science-fiction genre, draws close, is that he has gone back to the universe of his groundbreaking classic, but he’s also moved on. “I felt there was still life in the old sod, but it has evolved into something else. To stick to the story, you don’t really get it until about eight minutes from the end.” Deep down in its scaly heart, Prometheus is an Alien prequel, but not as we know it.
It certainly embraces the Alien aesthetic; that biomechanoid phantasmagoria born of H.R. Gigers pervy art and his director’s unerring eye. “It does,” agrees Scott “,but it’s also different…” This is as much a metter of scope as anything. With a much bigger budget, Scott has been utlising all the tools availible to him: high-end digital effects (“Avatar set the bar high”), filming in 3D (“You engage more, you’re drawn in”) and building massive Giger-esque sets across Pinewood that oozed the atmosphere that defined his career (“I still believe in putting in the proscenium”)
The cast went giddy at the belly-of-the-beast effect of the giant sets. If Alien was a souped-up B-Movie, then Prometheus is a biblical epic. “Alien felt epic,” says Scott “, but this one is Epic.”
Barring a beach scene in the long cut of Alien 3, the new film will feature the franchise’s first genuine exterior, with Iceland’s black lava fields providing the new planet’s hardscrabble surface (LV-426 was created on a soundstage). Thematically, too, it’s gone big. This is God versus Science, and the survival of not just the crew (most of whom probably don’t) but mankind itself. In other words, there is a whole 2001-vibe going on. “It’s gone off in a new direction,” boasts Scott “, but I promise it will engage you in the first five minutes.”
The script, written by Jon Spaihts and Lost’s Damon Lindelof, based on “one single thought” Scott drew from the original, initially follows a familiar arc. The crew of the Prometheus (the ship’s name designed to echo the Greek myth) follow a perplexing message to a planet that will open their eyes and their chests to a new alien race. “A crew of scientists embark on a journey somebody else is paying for,” says the director, referring to the fact Charlize Theron’s Meredith Vickers is a “suit” for a certain Weyland-Yutani. Meanwhile, Michael Fassbender may or may not be an early model of Ash’s android and may or may not be trustworthy. And Noomi Rapace’s archaeologist heroine, Elizabeth Shaw – a spiritual cousin to “Rippers” – is one half of a conflicted couple of Logan Marshall-Green’s Holloway: “One comes from a position of faith, and the other is pure scientist,” details Scott. Both are going to have a lot to swallow.
Even at the time of Alien, some 32 years ago, Scott mentioned he was interested in exploring the origins of the ‘Space Jockey’, the dead pilot of the derelict “space croissant”. He talked about bioengineering and biological warfare as potential themes. Has he been able to satisfy his curiosity in that respect? “Definitely.” And what significance can we draw from the pictures slowly being released, especially the giant humanoid ‘head’ that looms over what Scott terms the “ampule chamber”? “Oh there’s a lot more to it,” he says wafting explanations away, “I’ve locked up all the sweet stuff…” Including something familiar, perhaps?
hornetrider said:
im said:
Rumour is that the full HD trailer will hit Apple.com at about 8pm tonight.
Make sure you have a box of tissues next to the monitor im 
...Charlize Theron doing naked push-ups 
'course, I appreciate that wont float-the-boat for you gayers...
Edited by im on Thursday 22 December 18:42
Frame-By-Frame breakdown of the Prometheus Trailer...and who is that man on the Space Jockey Bridge???
Plus many other clues hidden in the trailer:
http://io9.com/5870560/frame+by+frame-breakdown-of...
How Ridley says this isn't an Alien prequel...
Plus many other clues hidden in the trailer:
http://io9.com/5870560/frame+by+frame-breakdown-of...
How Ridley says this isn't an Alien prequel...
Edited by im on Friday 23 December 16:01
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I did and wish I hadn't as I wanted the new film to 'hit me' like the original Alien film did when I first saw it.
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I did and wish I hadn't as I wanted the new film to 'hit me' like the original Alien film did when I first saw it.
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