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Kaelic
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70 months
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I think David was looking for a potion of eternal life for Weyland, testing the liquid on Holloway was a quick and easy way to see what the cargo did to someone, it could have been the gift of eternal life or something and to find out he spiked the drink... when that goes pearshaped and david then finds the Engineer, Weyland decides to go see the engineer and ask some questions.
Cant accept that Shaw was being action woman a matter of minutes after major abdominal surgery, and the fact the other characters seem to have forgotten they were trying to quarantine her and she attacked them all...
Anyone else think the Xeno at the end looked a wee bit gormless? 
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Pesty
25,888 posts
125 months
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Kaelic said:
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Cant accept that Shaw was being action woman a matter of minutes after major abdominal surgery, and the fact the other characters seem to have forgotten they were trying to quarantine her and she attacked them all...
Anyone else think the Xeno at the end looked a wee bit gormless?
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RizzoTheRat
8,070 posts
61 months
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Went to see it last night, in 2D as I really can't see the point of any 3D films I've seen so far.
Other than the script, the enormous amount of plot holes, and a few characters clearly being there only for comic effect, it wasn't bad I suppose.
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyxZBuWSXM - good review I think people are being a little dense, it's clear this film is just the start and setup for the other films planned, Scott actually warned people about that. Personally i thought it looked visually stunning and Fassbender was brilliant, script aside.
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Papa Hotel
9,589 posts
51 months
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superkartracer said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jyxZBuWSXM - good review I think people are being a little dense, it's clear this film is just the start and setup for the other films planned, Scott actually warned people about that. Personally i thought it looked visually stunning and Fassbender was brilliant, script aside. You'll have to excuse me, but what are people being dense about?
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tim2100
5,985 posts
126 months
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Pesty said: tim2100 said: i went to see this on Friday night. I haven't seen any if the alien trilogy. They have never appealed to me.
However I really enjoyed the film. good story, great effects and music and some funny lines. also some strange twists.
fantastic film. interesting. i would be fascinated to hear your thoughts on alien and aliens should you see them. I think you ought to give them a go. I have now ordered the box set of the 4 films. Will report back.
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Madness60
170 posts
53 months
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Had to wait until last night to see the film and had enjoyed all the hype, watched the trailers and virals many times and was thoroughly looking forward to the film. In all honesty it got pretty damned close to living up to the hype and so for me that it a cracking achievement.
Expected the visuals to be stunning and they were apart from one thing (in spoiler bit).
My thoughts on some of the points other have raised
EDITED AS SPOILER TAGS NOT WORKING FOR ME
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JonRB
39,539 posts
141 months
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Madness60 said: EDITED AS SPOILER TAGS NOT WORKING FOR ME Just enclose with the spoiler tag, eg. [spoiler]my comments that could be a spoiler[/spoiler] Which then comes out as my comments that could be a spoiler
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blade runner
115 posts
81 months
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A few more dumb things that really annoyed me...
Did I miss something when they arrived at the moon that meant they actually knew where to start looking when they took the ship down to the surface? Presumably the moon was a similar size/mass to earth given the same level of gravity, so it seems staggeringly lucky to drop down anywhere and after a few minutes crusing around just happen spot the pyramids?
How come technology has advanced to the point where interstellar travel is possible yet the picture quality from a space suit head-cam hasn't progressed much beyond the average web-cam from 10 years ago?
Open abdominal surgey with minimal anesthetic. Rip off the umbilical chord for good measure and get stapled up, yet almost no bleeding and well enough withtin a few minutes to be suiting back up again, running around and fighting off an engineer, a giant squid and out-running a falling space ship with seemingly no ill effects... Really?
How did the squid thing manage to grow from something no bigger than a rat into a huge beast capable of overpowering the enginner within a few hours at most? Seeing as it had nothing to feed on being locked in the surgery module, it must have defied the laws of physics to grow to such a size. Stupid.
So many other things that annoyed me about this film, but can't be bothered to post them all up.
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Pesty
25,888 posts
125 months
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Open abdominal surgey with minimal anesthetic. Rip off the umbilical chord for good measure and get stapled up, yet almost no bleeding and well enough withtin a few minutes to be suiting back up again, running around and fighting off an engineer, a giant squid and out-running a falling space ship with seemingly no ill effects... Really?
Don't exagerate she winced a bit
How did the squid thing manage to grow from something no bigger than a rat into a huge beast capable of overpowering the enginner within a few hours at most? Seeing as it had nothing to feed on being locked in the surgery module, it must have defied the laws of physics to grow to such a size. Stupid.
There was a bag of doritos mild chillie in the corner that they were saving for later
So many other things that annoyed me about this film, but can't be bothered to post them all up.
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JonRB
39,539 posts
141 months
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Basically the film was a pile of poop from the point of view of plausibility and self-consistency.
Still, it looked and sounded good.
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Du1point8
14,308 posts
61 months
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Pesty said:
Open abdominal surgey with minimal anesthetic. Rip off the umbilical chord for good measure and get stapled up, yet almost no bleeding and well enough withtin a few minutes to be suiting back up again, running around and fighting off an engineer, a giant squid and out-running a falling space ship with seemingly no ill effects... Really?
Don't exagerate she winced a bit
How did the squid thing manage to grow from something no bigger than a rat into a huge beast capable of overpowering the enginner within a few hours at most? Seeing as it had nothing to feed on being locked in the surgery module, it must have defied the laws of physics to grow to such a size. Stupid.
There was a bag of doritos mild chillie in the corner that they were saving for later
So many other things that annoyed me about this film, but can't be bothered to post them all up.
a) no one complains when star trek clip on a little device to someones head and fix brain trauma, or repair a phase wound in seconds...
b) how does the alien in Alien get from the size it does to 7ft without feeding on anything?
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Madness60
170 posts
53 months
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Thanks to JonRB for spoiler tag thingy
Right, here goes
Why does David infect Holloway? I think he is under orders from Weyland to only wake him and use his last days of life if the DNA thingy works. David inteprets the test as infecting Holloway.
Showing my age but did like the use of access to dreams which I think links into the Alan Dean Foster novel of the original film where he writes about the crew dreaming in hypersleep.
Some of the issues like why the captain is unconcerned about crew, why do crew not know what is going on when they arrive, make up of crew can all be reconciled with the idea that Weyland is a very old man close to death and he will do anything to change this, he cant take the trillions with him and he has no 'son'
My bet for the final Prometheus/Alien prequel is that they go back to LV426, original planet and rediscover the first space jockey, recover it, open it up and its SHAW!!!! The only reason we consider it older than this is that a tug flight crew thought it was fossilised. I'd like a percentage if this happens!!
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Pesty
25,888 posts
125 months
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Du1point8 said:
a) no one complains when star trek clip on a little device to someones head and fix brain trauma, or repair a phase wound in seconds...
b) how does the alien in Alien get from the size it does to 7ft without feeding on anything?
a: but they have a device that does that we don't need to know how, they just have a device and fundascopic examinations and unrevealing in these cases. its also a lot more than 70 years in the future
that pod just had staples f k sake if they had just shone some blue light on it or something that would have done. and what stopped the internal bleeding when she ripped the cord out?
b)it eats doritos from the cargo hold.
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Pesty
25,888 posts
125 months
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Madness60 said: My bet for the final Prometheus/Alien prequel is that they go back to LV426, original planet and rediscover the first space jockey, recover it, open it up and its SHAW!!!! The only reason we consider it older than this is that a tug flight crew thought it was fossilised. I'd like a percentage if this happens!! I like teh sound of that i think you may be on to something there.
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RizzoTheRat
8,070 posts
61 months
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Madness60 said: Right, here goes
Some of the issues like why the captain is unconcerned about crew, why do crew not know what is going on when they arrive, make up of crew can all be reconciled with the idea that Weyland is a very old man close to death and he will do anything to change this, he cant take the trillions with him and he has no 'son'
Bit if you were one of the richest men on the planet putting together an expedition to travel 2 years in to space to possibly meet an an alien race that spawned our own, wouldn't you have at least hired some people who had a clue what the hell they were doing not a bunch of rank amateurs who will poke their fingers in to anything that looks interesting and whip their helmets off just because the gas mix seems about about right.
On the plus side though Charlize Theron looks damn good in a one piece catsuit.
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Madness60
170 posts
53 months
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RizzoTheRat said:
Bit if you were one of the richest men on the planet putting together an expedition to travel 2 years in to space to possibly meet an an alien race that spawned our own, wouldn't you have at least hired some people who had a clue what the hell they were doing not a bunch of rank amateurs who will poke their fingers in to anything that looks interesting and whip their helmets off just because the gas mix seems about about right.
On the plus side though Charlize Theron looks damn good in a one piece catsuit.
Wise words, but its Holloway, scientist not crew, who takes helmet off and arguably David is poking goo deliberatly and under orders!
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5705
1,165 posts
21 months
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JonRB said: That's a fair review. As for 'being dense' just because I want to see a film that's good enough to stand on its own two feet... 
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Gretchen
11,911 posts
85 months
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Pesty said: Madness60 said: My bet for the final Prometheus/Alien prequel is that they go back to LV426, original planet and rediscover the first space jockey, recover it, open it up and its SHAW!!!! The only reason we consider it older than this is that a tug flight crew thought it was fossilised. I'd like a percentage if this happens!! I like teh sound of that i think you may be on to something there. As posted previously I still think Shaw will turn out to be Ripley's mother. Ellen was been born in the January the year before they are awoken, which is in the late December. They've been in stasis for two years and the dates would work. The conversation between Holloway & Shaw regarding children isn't in detail. Just a lot of looks & 'don't go there's'. We assume she can't get pregnant. But not that she hadn't already had a child. Then had to leave it in order to live her dream by accepting this mission/funding from Weyland.Regarding the surgery, five years ago aged 70 my Father had a triple heart by-pass, a fortnight later he was laying a patio. As a woman whose had three children with no pain relief or hospital stays and back on my feet/home/running a household the same day, I thought this quite believable tbh. It's just you menfolk who winced at that and wanted two weeks bed recovery it seems 
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croyde
8,754 posts
99 months
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Gretchen said: As posted previously I still think Shaw will turn out to be Ripley's mother. Ellen was been born in the January the year before they are awoken, which is in the late December. They've been in stasis for two years and the dates would work. The conversation between Holloway & Shaw regarding children isn't in detail. Just a lot of looks & 'don't go there's'. We assume she can't get pregnant. But not that she hadn't already had a child. Then had to leave it in order to live her dream by accepting this mission/funding from Weyland.Regarding the surgery, five years ago aged 70 my Father had a triple heart by-pass, a fortnight later he was laying a patio. As a woman whose had three children with no pain relief or hospital stays and back on my feet/home/running a household the same day, I thought this quite believable tbh. It's just you menfolk who winced at that and wanted two weeks bed recovery it seems 
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