Drive (New Film)
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PinkFatBunny said:
Each to their own - did you not find any bit of it entertaining/moving?
I enjoyed bits of it, but a lot of the scenes were like watching paint drying. I got the whole "real life superhero" theme of the film even though I'd read or seen nothing about it though, but I just felt like it tried far too hard to be stylish and 'art house' that they forgot to put a movie in there.T84 said:
enjoyed bits of it, but a lot of the scenes were like watching paint drying. I got the whole "real life superhero" theme of the film even though I'd read or seen nothing about it though, but I just felt like it tried far too hard to be stylish and 'art house' that they forgot to put a movie in there.
There is maybe a few more dramatic pauses than there should be. I thought good acting by Ryan Gosling though.PinkFatBunny said:
For those of you that have seen the film, Spotify/iTunes/download these tracks and wait for the goosebumps!
Kavinsky - Night Call
College/Electric Youth - A Real Hero
Adam
Ahh yes, listened to the Kavinsky tune and it took me right back to cruising along the streets of LA in the back seat of the car in the opening scene of the film!Kavinsky - Night Call
College/Electric Youth - A Real Hero
Adam
Brigand said:
Ahh yes, listened to the Kavinsky tune and it took me right back to cruising along the streets of LA in the back seat of the car in the opening scene of the film!
The music was brilliant - really liked the fact I hadn't heard any of the songs before. If you are thinking of watching the film I would hold off listening to them though as I think it might spoil the film a bit (or am I just being a loser?).
I thought it was junk and was baffled to see the IMDB rating when I got back in from the cinema. Pacing was ridiculous, Gosling miscast and the plot all over the place:
What was the point in the 'race car team'? It went nowhere and was just there to pad out the film to a reasonable length - waste of time. Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl? Why did he agree to help the husband? Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer? Absolutely useless character development throughout. Also the least convincing 'gangsters' ever portrayed on film. Apart from the brilliantly shot opening scene, I can't see why this got decent reviews.
What was the point in the 'race car team'? It went nowhere and was just there to pad out the film to a reasonable length - waste of time. Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl? Why did he agree to help the husband? Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer? Absolutely useless character development throughout. Also the least convincing 'gangsters' ever portrayed on film. Apart from the brilliantly shot opening scene, I can't see why this got decent reviews.
Went to see this the other night with a bunch of mates off the back of the numerous 'Rave' reviews. ***careful, SPOILERS may lie ahead so I have spoiler'd my review***
Have to say, we left feeling a bit.... what the hell did we just pay for?
80's feel was pretty nice, have to say, but I spent most of the film sat on the edge of my seat. Not because the film was gripping me with action and drama... but more or less had me on edge wondering when, exactly, something interesting might happen. The film for me didn't seem to get into any kind of stride, it just swanned about in a kind of 80's tinted dream land, interrupted with scenes of gratuitous, emotionless violence.
The "Real Hero" track got completely on my wick and there were far too many odd long pauses between the two main characters... it was almost painful to watch. My mate described him a rain man gone mental and a bit of a simpleton who's best relationship in the film was with the young boy as they were seemingly on the same intellectual level.
So yeah, way way way too slow in setting up the back story and like others have pointed out, style over substance. The story itself really wasn't anything to write home about. Maybe that the ultimate bad guy turned out to be the one he was going to be working for was a nice little twist, but the rest of it was just bland. The dreamy, arty vibe just got old very quickly, seen it many times before, just wasn't different enough. Kinda felt like someone had picked up a "cool arty film techniques for dummies" and just went wild.
Having said that, full marks with the gore... a lot of films quickly cut away from such scenes, but not this one. pretty gruesome and very well done.
If I had to sum the film up, using one word, that word would be "schizophrenic".... languid, placid, dreamy dreamy land with not much going on but cool 80's synth one minute, suddenly snapping into savage, unrelenting, emotionless violence (i.e. the elevator scene) the next. Initially baffling in a WTF? kinda way.
Also baffled by the IMDB rating and critics reviews.... perhaps my mind just isn't high brow enough for these types of films. Certainly couldn't see what they were all raving about. For me a truly baffling cinema experience. Going to go make up for it by watching that shark night 3D which I've heard is completely and utterly awful.
Have to say, we left feeling a bit.... what the hell did we just pay for?
80's feel was pretty nice, have to say, but I spent most of the film sat on the edge of my seat. Not because the film was gripping me with action and drama... but more or less had me on edge wondering when, exactly, something interesting might happen. The film for me didn't seem to get into any kind of stride, it just swanned about in a kind of 80's tinted dream land, interrupted with scenes of gratuitous, emotionless violence.
The "Real Hero" track got completely on my wick and there were far too many odd long pauses between the two main characters... it was almost painful to watch. My mate described him a rain man gone mental and a bit of a simpleton who's best relationship in the film was with the young boy as they were seemingly on the same intellectual level.
So yeah, way way way too slow in setting up the back story and like others have pointed out, style over substance. The story itself really wasn't anything to write home about. Maybe that the ultimate bad guy turned out to be the one he was going to be working for was a nice little twist, but the rest of it was just bland. The dreamy, arty vibe just got old very quickly, seen it many times before, just wasn't different enough. Kinda felt like someone had picked up a "cool arty film techniques for dummies" and just went wild.
Having said that, full marks with the gore... a lot of films quickly cut away from such scenes, but not this one. pretty gruesome and very well done.
If I had to sum the film up, using one word, that word would be "schizophrenic".... languid, placid, dreamy dreamy land with not much going on but cool 80's synth one minute, suddenly snapping into savage, unrelenting, emotionless violence (i.e. the elevator scene) the next. Initially baffling in a WTF? kinda way.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Saturday 1st October 23:28
Also baffled by the IMDB rating and critics reviews.... perhaps my mind just isn't high brow enough for these types of films. Certainly couldn't see what they were all raving about. For me a truly baffling cinema experience. Going to go make up for it by watching that shark night 3D which I've heard is completely and utterly awful.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Saturday 1st October 23:31
I liked it. It was nice that for a change not everything was set out clearly, leaving the viewer with a bit of work to do to flesh out the story. Gore was certainly gory, and the scene in the strip club was excellently done.
Certainly the long................pauses were a little bit overdone; I got that the "driver" was a man of few words fairly quickly.
It's made me want to go and buy the book at least.
Certainly the long................pauses were a little bit overdone; I got that the "driver" was a man of few words fairly quickly.
It's made me want to go and buy the book at least.
wiffmaster said:
I thought it was junk and was baffled to see the IMDB rating when I got back in from the cinema. Pacing was ridiculous, Gosling miscast and the plot all over the place:
What was the point in the 'race car team'? It went nowhere and was just there to pad out the film to a reasonable length - waste of time. Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl? Why did he agree to help the husband? Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer? Absolutely useless character development throughout. Also the least convincing 'gangsters' ever portrayed on film. Apart from the brilliantly shot opening scene, I can't see why this got decent reviews.
I think every single point you made in the spoiler is total rubbish What was the point in the 'race car team'? It went nowhere and was just there to pad out the film to a reasonable length - waste of time. Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl? Why did he agree to help the husband? Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer? Absolutely useless character development throughout. Also the least convincing 'gangsters' ever portrayed on film. Apart from the brilliantly shot opening scene, I can't see why this got decent reviews.
:What was the point in the 'race car team'?:
It shows how the relationship between him and the "gangsters" starts and how it then links back when the money is stolen.
Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl?
Have you never heard of love at first sight? I fell in love with my wife when I first saw on holiday 8 years ago. Before she opened her mouth I knew we would be together forever.
Why did he agree to help the husband?
So the kid and the wife aren't murdered!?
Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer?
He is always a bad ass killer - you just don't see it. He knows there is a time and a place and is professional in every thing he does.
Just my opinion (and that of most people who have watched it) but I guess the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff!
I'm with you Day Trader on this one.
Drive is a classic 'Art house' film, and that type of film will always have polar views.
I went looking for the book the other day, but it seems since the film came out, there's been a surge in people buying copies, there was only around five copies held in various Kent Waterstones branches, (annoyingly not in the one I was in at the time!) and the book is currently being republished.
The idea behind the pauses in his speech is that yes, he is a man of few words, but it is also similar to some Clint Eastwood characters 'back in the day'.
Why did he fall in love with the girl so quick?
Well, as Day Trader said, but also, do you need a reason? This isn't a Hollywood Blockbuster that is made for you to come in, switch off, and have everything explained to you, you're free to figure things out yourself, or decide for yourself why it happens.
We're no more right than you are wrong for liking/not liking this film, and that's the beauty of cinema!
Slightly O/T, but there's another Art house film coming out around now called Melancholia. It's also attracting rave reviews, but just as many slating it too. (Just read the comments on the YouTube link to see what I mean!)
It's about a womans depression at her wedding, just as a 'rogue planet' is heading towards Earth. (And eventually hits us)
They say it has the most beautiful opening eight minutes of any film, and a very climatic ending, but as interested as I am in seeing this film, I reckon I'll wait until it's on DVD, as it could be hit and miss for me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzD0U841LRM
Drive is a classic 'Art house' film, and that type of film will always have polar views.
I went looking for the book the other day, but it seems since the film came out, there's been a surge in people buying copies, there was only around five copies held in various Kent Waterstones branches, (annoyingly not in the one I was in at the time!) and the book is currently being republished.
The idea behind the pauses in his speech is that yes, he is a man of few words, but it is also similar to some Clint Eastwood characters 'back in the day'.
Why did he fall in love with the girl so quick?
Well, as Day Trader said, but also, do you need a reason? This isn't a Hollywood Blockbuster that is made for you to come in, switch off, and have everything explained to you, you're free to figure things out yourself, or decide for yourself why it happens.
We're no more right than you are wrong for liking/not liking this film, and that's the beauty of cinema!
Slightly O/T, but there's another Art house film coming out around now called Melancholia. It's also attracting rave reviews, but just as many slating it too. (Just read the comments on the YouTube link to see what I mean!)
It's about a womans depression at her wedding, just as a 'rogue planet' is heading towards Earth. (And eventually hits us)
They say it has the most beautiful opening eight minutes of any film, and a very climatic ending, but as interested as I am in seeing this film, I reckon I'll wait until it's on DVD, as it could be hit and miss for me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzD0U841LRM
Edited by Brigand on Sunday 2nd October 14:26
DayTrader said:
Just my opinion (and that of most people who have watched it) but I guess the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff!
True. People I went to see it with liked it, so it seems to be one which splits opinion.I think that Gran Torino is similar in many ways (cars, gangsters, bad ass turns good to save a life, arty) but is infinitely more convincing. Something about 'Drive' just didn't click for me.
DayTrader said:
I think every single point you made in the spoiler is total rubbish :
What was the point in the 'race car team'?:
It shows how the relationship between him and the "gangsters" starts and how it then links back when the money is stolen.
Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl?
Have you never heard of love at first sight? I fell in love with my wife when I first saw on holiday 8 years ago. Before she opened her mouth I knew we would be together forever.
Why did he agree to help the husband?
So the kid and the wife aren't murdered!?
Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer?
He is always a bad ass killer - you just don't see it. He knows there is a time and a place and is professional in every thing he does.
Just my opinion (and that of most people who have watched it) but I guess the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff!
I have to agree. Absolutely loved it! :What was the point in the 'race car team'?:
It shows how the relationship between him and the "gangsters" starts and how it then links back when the money is stolen.
Why did he instantly fall in love with the girl?
Have you never heard of love at first sight? I fell in love with my wife when I first saw on holiday 8 years ago. Before she opened her mouth I knew we would be together forever.
Why did he agree to help the husband?
So the kid and the wife aren't murdered!?
Why does he seemingly switch from unassuming and discreet to bad ass killer?
He is always a bad ass killer - you just don't see it. He knows there is a time and a place and is professional in every thing he does.
Just my opinion (and that of most people who have watched it) but I guess the world would be a boring place if we all liked the same stuff!
Drive seems to polarise opinion massively.
I utterly loved it, nine-out-of-ten loved it. But the friend I saw it with thought it was rubbish and hated its languid pace and stoicism and explosive moments of brutal violence.
I thought Gosling was terrific in it - the disconnectedness of his character and impassivity is vital early on, because that's the basis on which the story spins. His emotionless Driver vacuums up the motives and relationships of the people around him (Irene and Standard and Benicio) so that their feelings become more important to him that the lack of his own.
He becomes a one-man crusade galvanised by what drives them.
And Gosling's performance showed that too - did you notice his whole eye-contact thing? When he first met Cook, and Cook is shuffling around and looking here and there, the Driver is ducking and weaving like a boxer to maintain unbroken eye-contact.
I thought the film was extraordinary.
I utterly loved it, nine-out-of-ten loved it. But the friend I saw it with thought it was rubbish and hated its languid pace and stoicism and explosive moments of brutal violence.
I thought Gosling was terrific in it - the disconnectedness of his character and impassivity is vital early on, because that's the basis on which the story spins. His emotionless Driver vacuums up the motives and relationships of the people around him (Irene and Standard and Benicio) so that their feelings become more important to him that the lack of his own.
He becomes a one-man crusade galvanised by what drives them.
And Gosling's performance showed that too - did you notice his whole eye-contact thing? When he first met Cook, and Cook is shuffling around and looking here and there, the Driver is ducking and weaving like a boxer to maintain unbroken eye-contact.
I thought the film was extraordinary.
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