Nevermind the Buzzcocks

[Cupramax]

Mezzanine said:

I’m not sure Lamarr is allowed on TV anymore.

Thought the charges against him were dropped?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4767...

[Mezzanine]

Cupramax said:

Mezzanine said:

I’m not sure Lamarr is allowed on TV anymore.

Thought the charges against him were dropped?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4767...

I don't think that matters in this day and age does it - once you are seen as potentially trouble, the phone doesn't ring so much anymore.

[Patch1875]

I’m watching it just now it’s really bad.

[Patch1875]

Apart from Noel’s Sonic Youth jumper.

[anonymous-user]

Mezzanine said:

Cupramax said:

Mezzanine said:

I’m not sure Lamarr is allowed on TV anymore.

Thought the charges against him were dropped?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4767...

I don't think that matters in this day and age does it - once you are seen as potentially trouble, the phone doesn't ring so much anymore.

I recently listened to quite a moving interview with Mark Lamarr talking about his friend Sean Lock with whom he co wrote some episodes of 15 Storeys High.

[Nightmare]

Patch1875 said:

I’m watching it just now it’s really bad.

Fair enough - I thought it was very funny. Lass from Little Mix was great and I find both Daisy May Cooper and Nish Kumar funny…and it was hosted by Greg Davies and had Noel F on it. It was great IMO!

[Chris Type R]

Gave up after about 5 minutes - just seemed far too forced.

[Cupramax]

Mezzanine said:

Cupramax said:

Mezzanine said:

I’m not sure Lamarr is allowed on TV anymore.

Thought the charges against him were dropped?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4767...

I don't think that matters in this day and age does it - once you are seen as potentially trouble, the phone doesn't ring so much anymore.

Maybe, whether that makes it right or not, I’m guessing it’s not every day the CPS admits it made a mistake. Not sure if he’s now a self confessed recluse or just had enough of the bks that’s goes with being a s-leb these days. I’m guessing Buzzcocks was a very hard host slot to fill and not sure if Greg Davies has what it takes. Lamar and to a lesser extent Amstell had a very specific cutting sarcasm that’s very hard to find. Not many comedy shows make you physically cringe like those two do.

[Mezzanine]

Cupramax said:

Mezzanine said:

Cupramax said:

Mezzanine said:

I’m not sure Lamarr is allowed on TV anymore.

Thought the charges against him were dropped?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-4767...

I don't think that matters in this day and age does it - once you are seen as potentially trouble, the phone doesn't ring so much anymore.

Maybe, whether that makes it right or not, I’m guessing it’s not every day the CPS admits it made a mistake. Not sure if he’s now a self confessed recluse or just had enough of the bks that’s goes with being a s-leb these days. I’m guessing Buzzcocks was a very hard host slot to fill and not sure if Greg Davies has what it takes. Lamar and to a lesser extent Amstell had a very specific cutting sarcasm that’s very hard to find. Not many comedy shows make you physically cringe like those two do.

It doesn’t make it right in the slightest but that’s why we generally end up with the same 30 people on all the channels and shows these days. TV executives want safety, absolutely no chance of even the mildest ‘outrage’ from Twitter.

It’s the same reason they wouldn’t have Angus Deayton back on HIGNFY despite him (still) being the best choice of host for that programme and it ultimately struggling ever since he was sacked. In a room full of TV executives, he probably did the least amount of cocaine!

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Mezzanine said:

It’s the same reason they wouldn’t have Angus Deayton back on HIGNFY despite him (still) being the best choice of host for that programme and it ultimately struggling ever since he was sacked. In a room full of TV executives, he probably did the least amount of cocaine!

There was a good documentary "Have I Got 30 Years for You" where they discussed this. They said they actually stumbled on for several weeks after the scandal, but it was when Angus referred to "disgraced politician Neil Hamilton" on a show in which Christine Hamilton was a panelist and she erupted "Disgraced?! You're a right one to talk!" that the producers realised it just couldn't work any more. So it wasn't some sort of moral high ground decision, but a comedic one.

[Mezzanine]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Mezzanine said:

It’s the same reason they wouldn’t have Angus Deayton back on HIGNFY despite him (still) being the best choice of host for that programme and it ultimately struggling ever since he was sacked. In a room full of TV executives, he probably did the least amount of cocaine!

There was a good documentary "Have I Got 30 Years for You" where they discussed this. They said they actually stumbled on for several weeks after the scandal, but it was when Angus referred to "disgraced politician Neil Hamilton" on a show in which Christine Hamilton was a panelist and she erupted "Disgraced?! You're a right one to talk!" that the producers realised it just couldn't work any more. So it wasn't some sort of moral high ground decision, but a comedic one.

And yet Jimmy Carr managed to defend, embrace and ultimately make material of becoming front page news and the Prime Minister calling for his resignation in the HoP.

[egomeister]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There was a good documentary "Have I Got 30 Years for You" where they discussed this. They said they actually stumbled on for several weeks after the scandal, but it was when Angus referred to "disgraced politician Neil Hamilton" on a show in which Christine Hamilton was a panelist and she erupted "Disgraced?! You're a right one to talk!" that the producers realised it just couldn't work any more. So it wasn't some sort of moral high ground decision, but a comedic one.

And yet it was "politician" that was the jab in that sentence

[hidetheelephants]

Mezzanine said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Mezzanine said:

It’s the same reason they wouldn’t have Angus Deayton back on HIGNFY despite him (still) being the best choice of host for that programme and it ultimately struggling ever since he was sacked. In a room full of TV executives, he probably did the least amount of cocaine!

There was a good documentary "Have I Got 30 Years for You" where they discussed this. They said they actually stumbled on for several weeks after the scandal, but it was when Angus referred to "disgraced politician Neil Hamilton" on a show in which Christine Hamilton was a panelist and she erupted "Disgraced?! You're a right one to talk!" that the producers realised it just couldn't work any more. So it wasn't some sort of moral high ground decision, but a comedic one.

And yet Jimmy Carr managed to defend, embrace and ultimately make material of becoming front page news and the Prime Minister calling for his resignation in the HoP.

Having been called upon to resign by David Cameron must count as a plus point these days.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Mezzanine said:

And yet Jimmy Carr managed to defend, embrace and ultimately make material of becoming front page news and the Prime Minister calling for his resignation in the HoP.

Perhaps. But Jimmy Carr wasn't the host of a satirical political news show.

Anyway, don't shoot the messenger; I was just relating what that documentary said.

It's worth watching if you are a fan of the show. A quick google doesn't show it as being available though. Not on iPlayer anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000qq61

[Bacon Is Proof]

Nightmare said:

I find Nish Kumar funny

Brave admission.
Are you his mum?

[Chris Type R]

Bacon Is Proof said:

Nightmare said:

I find Nish Kumar funny

Brave admission.
Are you his mum?

Did he make a joke about being confused for Romesh Ranganathan..... again.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Chris Type R said:

Gave up after about 5 minutes - just seemed far too forced.

I gave it about 15 mins, christ it was bad. Greg Davies was a terrible choice for the host IMHO.

[Mcphisto]

Nightmare said:

Fair enough - I thought it was very funny. Lass from Little Mix was great and I find both Daisy May Cooper and Nish Kumar funny…and it was hosted by Greg Davies and had Noel F on it. It was great IMO!

I agree (apart from the Nish Kumar being funny part) I liked most of the guests (apart from Nish and the annoying sulking woman in white) I enjoy the format only snag is my modern musical knowledge is nonexistent so anything to do with modern stuff and I don't have a clue what they are talking about.

[jet_noise]

Mezzanine said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Mezzanine said:

It’s the same reason they wouldn’t have Angus Deayton back on HIGNFY despite him (still) being the best choice of host for that programme and it ultimately struggling ever since he was sacked. In a room full of TV executives, he probably did the least amount of cocaine!

There was a good documentary "Have I Got 30 Years for You" where they discussed this. They said they actually stumbled on for several weeks after the scandal, but it was when Angus referred to "disgraced politician Neil Hamilton" on a show in which Christine Hamilton was a panelist and she erupted "Disgraced?! You're a right one to talk!" that the producers realised it just couldn't work any more. So it wasn't some sort of moral high ground decision, but a comedic one.

And yet Jimmy Carr managed to defend, embrace and ultimately make material of becoming front page news and the Prime Minister calling for his resignation in the HoP.

I thought Deayton was easily sharp enough to work with his "disgrace" in the same way as Carr. It was the BBC who lacked the stones/skill to embrace. There is no need at all in a comic-quiz for there to be any moral-high-ground grandstanding. A good retort is a good retort regardless of who makes it (and to whom).

[hairykrishna]

jet_noise said:

I thought Deayton was easily sharp enough to work with his "disgrace" in the same way as Carr. It was the BBC who lacked the stones/skill to embrace. There is no need at all in a comic-quiz for there to be any moral-high-ground grandstanding. A good retort is a good retort regardless of who makes it (and to whom).

My feeling from various documentary and interview stuff was that it caused a falling out with Paul Merton and Ian Hislop and that was a good part of him going.