Mad Max 4 - Fury Road
Discussion
JonRB said:
That bit always struck me as odd - almost every post-apocalyptic scenario in fiction is as a result of nuclear war yet Mad Max made some kind of passing reference to oil-based resource wars which never really explained the apocalypse. I think the "post-nuclear" bit is probably a retcon as I am sure the film itself never explicitly said so (or else it wouldn't have stuck so firmly in my mind).
You're right in that nuclear war was never hinted at. Both the Mad Max's that I have are old DVD's (with the cardboard covers, if you recall those), and the blurbs sound like they've come from the original VHS's publications, what with the language and style they're written in. It wouldn't surprise me if they were just hyping it up.The only things I can take away from it is the first is set in some kind of dystopian "modern" time where law and order is struggling in the remote areas of the country, and that the second two are an almost alternate world, but one where chaos reigns and everyone is back to tribal instincts.
You could argue that Miller wanted to make a movie about tribes with cars, having been inspired by the original movie, so he just made the film he wanted and brought Max in so as to create a sequel and some kind of continuity, even though the stories may not have been intended to be linked.
Edited by Brigand on Wednesday 27th May 21:34
Seen it last night.
Like the latest avengers movie, I was left feeling rather "meh" about it. It was a 2 hour car chase where they didn't actually get anywhere. I also just can't rate Tom Hardy. To me he is utterly flat and dimensionless and kept doing his Bane voice. He's like Generic Male Actor Number 1. No thanks. Happily he wasn't really the main character, more the eyes through which we view the main protagonist, Furiosa.
For me though, the wardrobes and the props absolutely stole the show. The cars and the fact they all were properly built and for the most part properly functional (I believe the Doof Wagons wall of speakers is actually functional!) is awesome. So too is that they performed many of big stunts and explosions for real and didn't revert to some CGI nonsense. Having just watched a behind the scenes this morning, it looked like an absolute riot.
Really liked some of the stylised shots, like Immortan Joe at the wheel with his white hair flowing backwards, taking up the whole screen.
Best costume, despite not getting much air time...The BulletFarmer and his wig of 7.62 ammunition. Closely followed by the Immortan Joe's weird plastic suit.
Best vehicle, toss up between the GigaWall; Immortan Joe's ride made from 2 '59 Caddy DeVilles, BulletFarmer's tracked Challenger? and the Doof Wagon.
Like the latest avengers movie, I was left feeling rather "meh" about it. It was a 2 hour car chase where they didn't actually get anywhere. I also just can't rate Tom Hardy. To me he is utterly flat and dimensionless and kept doing his Bane voice. He's like Generic Male Actor Number 1. No thanks. Happily he wasn't really the main character, more the eyes through which we view the main protagonist, Furiosa.
For me though, the wardrobes and the props absolutely stole the show. The cars and the fact they all were properly built and for the most part properly functional (I believe the Doof Wagons wall of speakers is actually functional!) is awesome. So too is that they performed many of big stunts and explosions for real and didn't revert to some CGI nonsense. Having just watched a behind the scenes this morning, it looked like an absolute riot.
Really liked some of the stylised shots, like Immortan Joe at the wheel with his white hair flowing backwards, taking up the whole screen.
Best costume, despite not getting much air time...The BulletFarmer and his wig of 7.62 ammunition. Closely followed by the Immortan Joe's weird plastic suit.
Best vehicle, toss up between the GigaWall; Immortan Joe's ride made from 2 '59 Caddy DeVilles, BulletFarmer's tracked Challenger? and the Doof Wagon.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 29th May 12:28
JonRB said:
But my point was that a Resource Wars scenario would be a gradual thing; a deterioration. It would be an interesting discussion to have (and probably off topic for this thread) but I think you need a cataclysmic event (an actual apocalypse) for something to be post-apocalyptic. And I'm not being a dick about semantics here, I postulate that as a debating point.
I know the 3rd film didn't happen in your world. But the talk about war over the remaining oil & nuclear holocaust turns up early in that non-existent film.Otispunkmeyer said:
Best vehicle, toss up between the GigaWall; Immortan Joe's ride made from 2 '59 Caddy DeVilles, BulletFarmer's tracked Challenger? and the Doof Wagon.
You mean the GigaHorse?Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 29th May 12:28
The Peacemaker tank has the body from an Australian Chrysler Valiant Charger VH.
Pretty good film but not as amazing as the internet seems to think it is.
The unrelenting action, cinematography, real life stunts, style and attention to background detail are amazing.
The lack of much dialogue and a flat performance from Tom Hardy not so much.
I get that the director was going for a more visual style of storytelling but a touch more narrative dialogue to outline the plot would have gone a long way to making the film more of a complete experience.
Possibly the reason why it gets so much unrelenting internet love is that the 'progressive trendies' of nerd-dom have seized upon it as some sort of totemic feminist piece of cinema, or something. Right on!
Still well worth going to see while it's on the big screen though. It's a big budget blockbuster that breaks with the established formula for such films, which is a good thing and might herald a change in direction for action movies. I've had my fill of Michael Bay type rubbish.
The unrelenting action, cinematography, real life stunts, style and attention to background detail are amazing.
The lack of much dialogue and a flat performance from Tom Hardy not so much.
I get that the director was going for a more visual style of storytelling but a touch more narrative dialogue to outline the plot would have gone a long way to making the film more of a complete experience.
Possibly the reason why it gets so much unrelenting internet love is that the 'progressive trendies' of nerd-dom have seized upon it as some sort of totemic feminist piece of cinema, or something. Right on!
Still well worth going to see while it's on the big screen though. It's a big budget blockbuster that breaks with the established formula for such films, which is a good thing and might herald a change in direction for action movies. I've had my fill of Michael Bay type rubbish.
V88Dicky said:
My Dad and I saw this in 3D on Wednesday and both agreed that, in this day and age of blue screens (green?) and CGI, that a live action film of this size is something to cherish.
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The scripts for the 5th and 6th movies are already complete according to rumors.
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dxg said:
Good find, it just shows the naysayers that CGI is actually very good when it's used appropriately and done to a high enough standard.On a side note, it can't have taken long to script the other films as there's not much other than, let's crash Max's car. Jump into a fuel tanker and get chased by lots of vehicles that have mismatched speeds but still all seem to keep up with each other. Ending with Max walking into the distance.
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