Black Mirror....anyone?
Discussion
shalmaneser said:
johnfm said:
Not sure how you can think this was 'amazing' tv - impossible to buy into the narrative in any meaningful way.
Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM f
king a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.
The only point that was arguably implausible was the demand itself. People have been kidnapped in the past, and will be kidnapped again in the future. If that was the condition for release, can you see the PM not doing it? Putting his own dignity before someone else's life? Its morally completely unjustifiable.Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM f
king a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.But, the point is that the premise marred an otherwise interesting examination of media, social media, politics and popularity .etc.
It would have been more interesting examination of society had the PM been expected to perform a homosexual act - the reaction to THAT request would have been more telling of society, the viewer etc than the implausible pig f
king.
johnfm said:
shalmaneser said:
johnfm said:
Not sure how you can think this was 'amazing' tv - impossible to buy into the narrative in any meaningful way.
Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM fking a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.
The only point that was arguably implausible was the demand itself. People have been kidnapped in the past, and will be kidnapped again in the future. If that was the condition for release, can you see the PM not doing it? Putting his own dignity before someone else's life? Its morally completely unjustifiable.Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM f
king a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.But, the point is that the premise marred an otherwise interesting examination of media, social media, politics and popularity .etc.
It would have been more interesting examination of society had the PM been expected to perform a homosexual act - the reaction to THAT request would have been more telling of society, the viewer etc than the implausible pig f
king.Where as a 'homosexual' encounter would leave pretty much all religious options open.
I don't think there was that much behind it. The kidnapper just chose the most degrading thing he could think of. If it was to have sex with another man that's not as weird as having sex with a pig.
Releasing her 30 mins before it happend was a test on the public. He knew everyone would be at home watching it on tv so knew she wouldn't be found until it was too late.
It's intersting to think what would happen if someone actually did this. I think the PM would have to do it. If someone wanted to it wouldn't actually be that hard to pull off!
Releasing her 30 mins before it happend was a test on the public. He knew everyone would be at home watching it on tv so knew she wouldn't be found until it was too late.
It's intersting to think what would happen if someone actually did this. I think the PM would have to do it. If someone wanted to it wouldn't actually be that hard to pull off!
Charlie Brooker's q&a session about Black Mirror on Twitter - http://charliebrooker.posterous.com/black-mirror-t...
And a general heads up for the second one tonight.
And a general heads up for the second one tonight.
johnfm said:
shalmaneser said:
johnfm said:
Not sure how you can think this was 'amazing' tv - impossible to buy into the narrative in any meaningful way.
Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM fking a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.
The only point that was arguably implausible was the demand itself. People have been kidnapped in the past, and will be kidnapped again in the future. If that was the condition for release, can you see the PM not doing it? Putting his own dignity before someone else's life? Its morally completely unjustifiable.Quite clear that it would never happen, so the whole show fails - which can't be said for sci-fi or fantasy where the 'story world' is built so you can buy into the impossible (time travel or super powers).
A PM f
king a pig on national tv in current UK society is not plausible.
My problem with this program unfortunately, I was really hoping to like it. He wouldn't be seen as 'heroic', he'd be remembered as the man who ruined Britain's reputation for centuries. Not to mention, princess suzannah would be kidnapped so frequently she'd probably move to the mushroom kingdom for an easier life, and all this despite the PM almost certainly having overwhelming cross-party support (what leader-in-waiting would want a house of parliament that would expect them to do that too?)
The script writer isn't exactly going overboard.
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