Discussion
London424 said:
Yeah that definition missed off the next bit."These include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline"
Impossible events - The Director of the CIA giving himself up to terrorists.
Isn't that the point though? Lockhart should never have been Director of the CIA, hence we are led to believe he can't make good decisions in stressful situations. It wouldn't be the first time a politician has got themselves into positions of power way above their tenure.Impossible events - The Director of the CIA giving himself up to terrorists.
On the flip side we had Saul who would rather be killed than do the hostage swap.
London424 said:
Why would he care about Fara...he doesn't know who she is any more than any of the first 2 or 3 people that were killed.
Ah, you see the first two were shot but he made out that Fara was about to get sliced and diced. Plus she had boobs.That difference is what made the script writers have him turn into a complete pansy
Come to think of it, they never explained how Quinn managed to seemingly escape either despite having a guard on his door... We saw him getting into the car with the other guy but not how he got there (I think).
Edit: Also Carrie saying how she wasn't sure what she would have done either when they were discussing it later was BS as well given that she was prepared to drop a bomb on Saul & Co in an earlier episode.
Still, at least they have forgotten about her strange looking kid
Edited by KTF on Monday 15th December 14:29
Legend83 said:
I think the point was for all Lockhart's bluster and arrogance, when it came to it he was a pussy.
Fairly sure Haqquani would have executed everyone in the vault if it were not for Quinn's intervention.
I'm not sure that makes him a pussy. He has to know, in fact, he was told as such by the ambassador, that if they opened the door everyone in the room would be killed, yet he tried to save the lives of those being held outside of the room by going out and facing the beardy terrorist bloke.Fairly sure Haqquani would have executed everyone in the vault if it were not for Quinn's intervention.
HarryW said:
Ok if not a hole in the plot, then I think it fair to describe it as not a credible scenario, which is a product of the script writing............
Yes. I can wholly agree with that.London424 said:
Yeah that definition missed off the next bit."These include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline"
Impossible events - The Director of the CIA giving himself up to terrorists.
Save that it is not illogical, or impossible clearly. Both incorrect uses here. Improbable maybe, in real life, but not illogical given the whole series and events beforehand.Impossible events - The Director of the CIA giving himself up to terrorists.
joema said:
How does anyone commenting here know anything about CIA protocol and decide what a plot hole is?
Looking forward to 24 Quinn style. Hoping carrie won't be screaming like a retard for at least one episode.
Yeah, probably correct! Looking forward to 24 Quinn style. Hoping carrie won't be screaming like a retard for at least one episode.
Just that plot-hole, along with plot-armour and Deus ex machina are massively overused and incorrectly used terms I see a lot!
NicD said:
just watched last nights episode, with the volume up.
Stunning, beyond hyperbole!!
Series 3 eclipse the first two, some job.
Just watched it as well. I cheered when speccy tech bloke pulled a pistol off a dead jizzlamist and sent AK toting mullah to his boy virgins and I cheered even louder when Quin said "Fekin' Drive" to the big grease ball Stunning, beyond hyperbole!!
Series 3 eclipse the first two, some job.
. He'll be screaming for his mama soon 
There's only one thing that has annoyed me about the last episode and its indicative of thousands of tv shows and films.
Quinn and the marine shoot the four guys then go after potentially tens of other terrorists yet do they pick up the four machine guns? Noooo lets keep going with our little pistols.
Yes they probably know those handguns better, but it certainly wouldn't do any harm to have a machine gun or two in a firefight.
Quinn and the marine shoot the four guys then go after potentially tens of other terrorists yet do they pick up the four machine guns? Noooo lets keep going with our little pistols.
Yes they probably know those handguns better, but it certainly wouldn't do any harm to have a machine gun or two in a firefight.
Beefmeister said:
There's only one thing that has annoyed me about the last episode and its indicative of thousands of tv shows and films.
Quinn and the marine shoot the four guys then go after potentially tens of other terrorists yet do they pick up the four machine guns? Noooo lets keep going with our little pistols.
Yes they probably know those handguns better, but it certainly wouldn't do any harm to have a machine gun or two in a firefight.
Agree, my first thought pick up the extra firepower, though to be fair how many rounds did Quinn have in his pistol, what I saw no 2nd clip. As he a magic clip, almost but not quite, out the ClintbEastwood Where Eagles Dare never ending armoury. Plot holes yeh that tunnel not booby trapped or monitored in anyway with vault like door inside the embassy? Hmmm, when the ambassador got wind, and turned to the uniformed marine in last week's episode and the tunnel, where's the marines?, you're a marine, pop down there should be pretty easy to hold them off. Lockhart unlock the fault door, after being a complete tw*t for a series and a half suddenly gets a conscience, and why hand them the list? Why not replace the list with a shopping list, was it on paper or digital, presumably encrypted? Hand them a lunch box. The last thing is open the door in reality.Quinn and the marine shoot the four guys then go after potentially tens of other terrorists yet do they pick up the four machine guns? Noooo lets keep going with our little pistols.
Yes they probably know those handguns better, but it certainly wouldn't do any harm to have a machine gun or two in a firefight.
On the other hand, it's the best drama on TV, and the last 2 episodes have been the best ever, after Brody got hung, I thought well that's got nowhere to go, but actually it has surpassed the whole is he, isn't he, is he really thing, for something so much better. Brody who?
Edited by Northern Munkee on Tuesday 16th December 00:04
Plot holes:
Sending all the marines away from the embassy. In Karachi - officially the world's most dangerous city? No.
A single padlock under the building? No CCTV? No trip switches? Really?
All that glass? I once drove past the US embassy in Amman, Jordan and you couldnt get within half a mile of it. The whole place had 3 separate concrete blast walls around it. And there was no glass.
The whole vault thing. The director of the CIA giving himself up to the worlds most wanted terrorist? Ok...
Etc Etc Etc
Sending all the marines away from the embassy. In Karachi - officially the world's most dangerous city? No.
A single padlock under the building? No CCTV? No trip switches? Really?
All that glass? I once drove past the US embassy in Amman, Jordan and you couldnt get within half a mile of it. The whole place had 3 separate concrete blast walls around it. And there was no glass.
The whole vault thing. The director of the CIA giving himself up to the worlds most wanted terrorist? Ok...
Etc Etc Etc
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