Homeland

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Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Through the magic of television

Thunderstruck80

108 posts

151 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Witchcraft?

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Oakey said:
Okay, so in the episode before the finale they showed him with the vest but until then we didn't know anything other than him running for congress.

We seemed to go from Brody agreeing to run for congress to agreeing to be a suicide bomber and then going to pick up the bomb vest.

It seemed whilst they were happy to show us trivial parts of Brody's life, like getting the huff his mate had been banging his wife (for about 6 episodes no less), they just decided to omit the parts where he was plotting to blow himself up.
Mmmm - I don't see that - It was pretty obvious that he held the VP responsible for the death of the young boy and that his objective was to extract revenge for that.

Running for Congress was just a factor of his popularity (quite realistically) as a returned prisoner (important too, to remember this borrows, at least, from an Israeli series where freed prisoners are seen as near super-heroes, but Americans have a 'returned prisoner' thing as seen after the Vietnam war) and enabled him to get access to the people (not just the VP) responsible for death of the children.

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Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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marcosgt said:
Mmmm - I don't see that - It was pretty obvious that he held the VP responsible for the death of the young boy and that his objective was to extract revenge for that.
I disagree with this. He didn't know the VP ordered the drone attack(we only find out right at the end), just it was a US attack the order could have been at any level.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Bullett said:
I disagree with this. He didn't know the VP ordered the drone attack(we only find out right at the end), just it was a US attack the order could have been at any level.
The head terrorist knew didn't he?

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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The VP made the 'Broadcast to the Nation' speech blaming terrorists IIRC.

Turbodiesel1690

1,957 posts

170 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Saul in this looks a lot like Gerry Adams shoot

Series finale was mediocre, I'll probably still watch the next series though

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Halb said:
The head terrorist knew didn't he?
I think he must have, presumably through his CIA mole.

Prawo Jazdy

4,947 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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What about... the Arabic Saul spoke to the prison guard that committed suicide. It wasn't translated. Were we supposed to read anything into that? Also, Estes asked that younger CIA guy to spy on Carrie or something, and that storyline never popped up again. I can't really remember what was said.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Prawo Jazdy said:
What about... the Arabic Saul spoke to the prison guard that committed suicide. It wasn't translated. Were we supposed to read anything into that? Also, Estes asked that younger CIA guy to spy on Carrie or something, and that storyline never popped up again. I can't really remember what was said.
I'm pretty sure that was Hebrew.

Prawo Jazdy

4,947 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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davepoth said:
Prawo Jazdy said:
What about... the Arabic Saul spoke to the prison guard that committed suicide. It wasn't translated. Were we supposed to read anything into that? Also, Estes asked that younger CIA guy to spy on Carrie or something, and that storyline never popped up again. I can't really remember what was said.
I'm pretty sure that was Hebrew.
Oh. Well, I still didn't understand it! Is it more or less important to the plot given it was Hebrew?

Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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davepoth said:
I think he must have, presumably through his CIA mole.
It's impressive this mole knows more than Saul!

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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I thought Saul was the mole at one point.biggrin

MonkeyHanger

9,198 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Oakey said:
davepoth said:
I think he must have, presumably through his CIA mole.
It's impressive this mole knows more than Saul!
There's only one person it could be...IMHO etc

Speculation & potential spoiler alert!

Estes worked under Saul for 3 years and was present when the VP ordered the Drone strike.

Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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MonkeyHanger said:
There's only one person it could be...IMHO etc

Speculation & potential spoiler alert!

Estes worked under Saul for 3 years and was present when the VP ordered the Drone strike.
I have wondered if it was him.

pacman1

7,322 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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Not convinced by any of the mole theories yet.

However.. Brody and Kerry spend some time up at the lodge. In the video conference Brody is told by Nazeer he knew he was at the lodge. When asked by Brody, Kerry says she told no one they were there. But she did, she couldn't find the key so made a phone call.. or just another poisson rouge.biggrin

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

265 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Season 2 Trailer released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_TPjZJCRc

Looking forward to this!

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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JamieBeeston said:
Season 2 Trailer released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_TPjZJCRc

Looking forward to this!
Thats on US TV, it will be a while before we get it.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Fort Jefferson said:
JamieBeeston said:
Season 2 Trailer released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_TPjZJCRc

Looking forward to this!
Thats on US TV, it will be a while before we get it.
Autumn.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Fort Jefferson said:
Thats on US TV, it will be a while before we get it.
Well, that's just a very defeatist attitude. wink