Eurovision Song Contest 2012

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Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

190 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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TomCooper said:
Just realised that the Swedish woman couldn't pronounce Azerbaijan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWmjSlOJdMg

(skip to 5:00)
Apparently it was a bit of an inside joke started on the Swedish song qualification thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sG8h1EUKew

weyland yutani

1,410 posts

165 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Swedish bint sounds like she has a cockney accent as well.

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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weyland yutani said:
Swedish bint sounds like she has a cockney accent as well.
She was. The song was actually called "You four 'ere"

North West Tom

11,529 posts

178 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Why can't we use someone like Adele for the Eurovision? Didn't France use one of their pop stars?

StevieBee

12,930 posts

256 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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North West Tom said:
Why can't we use someone like Adele for the Eurovision? Didn't France use one of their pop stars?
It would be a contractural nightmare. Most of the big, established performers are tied into tightly defined contracts with publishers and record companies which would require significant levels of negotiation on who gets what royalties and so on. Then, there's schedules - again, all the big names work on 18 month itineraries as a minimum so the time to allocate to Eurovision both in terms of the run up, competition itself and all other promotional work would be a logistical nightmare.

Whilst some of the acts on Saturday were established pop stars, with the best will in the world, none are at the level of someone like Adele.

Equally, all this aside, it wouldn't really be in the 'spirit' of the competition either. Ireland could put in U2 and walk it every year and the UK, well where to start? You could dig out any major heavy rock act from 1985 onwards and sew up the entire baltic and central European vote where such bands remain hugely popular, send in Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, Elton John.......a little bit "show offy" really.

Simpo Two

85,549 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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StevieBee said:
Equally, all this aside, it wouldn't really be in the 'spirit' of the competition either. Ireland could put in U2 and walk it every year and the UK, well where to start? You could dig out any major heavy rock act from 1985 onwards and sew up the entire baltic and central European vote where such bands remain hugely popular, send in Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, Elton John.......a little bit "show offy" really.
As someone said, there is and has been so much original music talent in this country that we don't need to lower ourselves to this 'bingabonga lalala' st.

I can only suggest, in the great words of Kenny Everett, that we round them all up, put them in a field and bomb the bds.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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StevieBee said:
Ireland could put in U2 and walk it every year
Except of course they would still loose! It's got nothing to do with the "song" whatso ever.

Besides, you try telling someone like Bono to perform when there is a good chance he might come last behind the likes of Jedward due to some political warmongering or something that your country may or may not have done!

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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No established superstar would even think of risking a last place finish in Eurovision, which would be down to dodgy block votes and sweet FA to do with song quality.It would be the end of their credibility!

I thought the "expert" panels were meant to put a stop to (at least 50% ) of the "vote for your mates" stuff, but it hasnt at all-surely ALL the former Sov bloc "experts" didnt think the grannies had a song worthy of 1st place!!

StevieBee

12,930 posts

256 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Max_Torque said:
Besides, you try telling someone like Bono to perform when there is a good chance he might come last behind the likes of Jedward due to some political warmongering or something that your country may or may not have done!
.....true! And I doubt the organisers would welcome such an entry as their inevitable failure to win would then undermine the whole competition.

Mind you, if the Russian can enter a bunch of grannies, what's stopping us putting in Status Quo next year?

The only way to make it fair is not reveal the nationalities until the voting has been done! Quite how that would work though.....



Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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kowalski655 said:
No established superstar would even think of risking a last place finish in Eurovision, which would be down to dodgy block votes and sweet FA to do with song quality.It would be the end of their credibility!

Englebert is thinking he should have stayed in retirement.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

190 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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If it was all determined by bloc voting, then why would Norway have won it a few years back, but come last this year? It doesn't make sense.

Yeah bloc voting happens, but the 'best' songs still tend to rise to the top imo.

The Hypno-Toad

12,287 posts

206 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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furious Just found out that not only did the BBC send a crew from Radio 2 out for this ridiculous charade but they also sent a crew from Radio 1 & Five Live. furious

Crazy. But as we know, when its not your money..


CatJ

9,586 posts

244 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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A question was asked on TV today about how much it costs for the BBC to put on the Show. It was something along the lines of £500k.


LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Max_Torque said:
Besides, you try telling someone like Bono to perform when there is a good chance he might come last behind the likes of Jedward due to some political warmongering or something that your country may or may not have done!
They;d also have to extend the show for an hour if U2 won so Bono, in his ivory tower and mink-lined underpants, could highlight human rights issues, poverty and how the right to listen to U2 is a fundamental human right.

I think the way forward is taking the p*ss. Send in the Quo with a massiovely over-produced raunchy rocker backed up by Roger Taylor and Brian May.

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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We spend enough supporting and televising it, we don't want the extra expense of winning and hence hosting it too!

I'd rather the UK pulled its funding and lost its bye to the final so had to attempt to qualify through the semi-finals.

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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I wonder why we even bother entering.

The other alternative is to enter Bucks Fizz every year singing Making Your Mind Up....every year. We won't stop fielding it until it wins...it will be a war of attrition.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I wonder why we even bother entering.

The other alternative is to enter Bucks Fizz every year singing Making Your Mind Up....every year. We won't stop fielding it until it wins...it will be a war of attrition.
Or we could wheel out Cliff Richard every year till we get our congratulations.

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Mermaid said:
Or we could wheel out Cliff Richard every year till we get our congratulations.
Power to all our friends ..... kind of limits the choice....

StevieBee

12,930 posts

256 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Shay HTFC said:
Yeah bloc voting happens, but the 'best' songs still tend to rise to the top imo.
To a degree. The main issue is musical tastes or rather the similarities in tastes across neighbouring regions. Part of the reason for wheeling out good ol' Hump was that he is hugely popular still across much of Eastern Europe and the Baltics - from where more people vote than others.

ajprice

27,527 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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StevieBee said:
Part of the reason for wheeling out good ol' Hump was that he is hugely popular still across much of Eastern Europe and the Baltics - from where more people vote than others.
Baldrick would be proud of a cunning plan like that...