C4 Now! The Italian Job.

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Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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davepoth said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just turned it on in time to watch the car chase, good timing

why on earth did they do the 'loading into a moving bus' business in the first, a load of time and effort for no benefit. why not just stop, load the cars, then go?
Well, it took them three minutes to load the gold into the Minis when they did the heist, so that would have meant three minutes stopped on the Autostrada, and then the minis would have been left to point to where they were going. That would have been silly If they'd just driven the minis up to the mountains the police APB for three minis would have got them stopped. Also it was really cool.
I meant "stop the bus, drive the 3 minis in in about 30 secs, then set off in the bus with the 3 minis on board"

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Hugo a Gogo said:
davepoth said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just turned it on in time to watch the car chase, good timing

why on earth did they do the 'loading into a moving bus' business in the first, a load of time and effort for no benefit. why not just stop, load the cars, then go?
Well, it took them three minutes to load the gold into the Minis when they did the heist, so that would have meant three minutes stopped on the Autostrada, and then the minis would have been left to point to where they were going. That would have been silly If they'd just driven the minis up to the mountains the police APB for three minis would have got them stopped. Also it was really cool.
I meant "stop the bus, drive the 3 minis in in about 30 secs, then set off in the bus with the 3 minis on board"
It wouldn't have been so cool. Duh. biggrin

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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So what is the correct way to drive from 50mph onto that ramp into the coach without killing the coach driver ?

lotus72

777 posts

267 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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er..........like it was done in the film?

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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lotus72 said:
er..........like it was done in the film?
Yes, but how do you do it ? I'm trying to get my head around the speed transition.

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Wheel spin.

Think about the energy in the situation.
You are carrying enough kinetic energy to carry along at say 51mph vs. the bus at 50mph.
Just because your wheels have moved from a moving surface to a stationary one in an instant it doesn't mean that the engine has enough power to accelerate the car from 1mph (relative to the bus) to 51mph (relative to the bus).

Even if the engine DID have enough power the wheels wouldn't have enough traction and would spin on the ramp.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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walm said:
Wheel spin.

Think about the energy in the situation.
You are carrying enough kinetic energy to carry along at say 51mph vs. the bus at 50mph.
Just because your wheels have moved from a moving surface to a stationary one in an instant it doesn't mean that the engine has enough power to accelerate the car from 1mph (relative to the bus) to 51mph (relative to the bus).

Even if the engine DID have enough power the wheels wouldn't have enough traction and would spin on the ramp.
You really need to watch the DVD extras or read the book on the making of the film then, because every thing you see was filmed in real time, with no hidden tricks apart from lots and lots of practice by Remy Julienne and his team. And lots of new clutch linings.
As Charlie Croker says himself during the film....."You need to accelerate....use more speed on the up, then slam on the anchors or we'll be in the cabin.....and get the wheels in line with it....get the wheels in line with it!"

Ad while we're at it, Rick Sylvester really did ski off Mount Asgard in to a free fall parachute jump at the beginning of The Spy Who Loved Me.

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Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 24th April 13:27

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

175 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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"we couldn't afford the gold yet charlie, so we're using lead instead"

OR

"whatcha doin?"

"Watching him"

"well get on wiv it then"

hehe

class

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
And lots of new clutch linings.
Sorry - I should have said wheel spin or clutch spin or most likely both.

I have to admit that my responses are based on a childhood of Knight Rider and some elementary physics.

Of course you need the energy both to get ON to the ramp and then UP it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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walm said:
I have to admit that my responses are based on a childhood of Knight Rider and some elementary physics.

Of course you need the energy both to get ON to the ramp and then UP it.
The elementary physics bit says that if you drive the car fast enough at the ramp/coach and plant the clutch just as it enters the ramp, it'll still carry enough momentum to see it up the ramp and in to the coach (which is pretty much how it was done)

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 24th April 14:09

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
walm said:
I have to admit that my responses are based on a childhood of Knight Rider and some elementary physics.

Of course you need the energy both to get ON to the ramp and then UP it.
The elementary physics bit says that if you drive the car fast enough at the ramp/coach and plant the clutch just as it enters the ramp, it'll still carry enough momentum to see it up the ramp and in to the coach (which is pretty much how it was done)
Right. That's what I thought.
The suggestion that you are going to kill the bus driver is highly unlikely.

My point was really that even if you DIDN'T plant the clutch you still wouldn't hoon forward at any great speed.

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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if anyone wants to borrow my coach for some sort of mythbusters experiment, we can talk terms!





ive never dared to load a car whilst its driving along!