New scifi series - Revolution

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AshVX220

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189 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Du1point8 said:
AshVX220 said:
That will still impact viewing figures which is what they base their re-newel of contracts on, not DVD sales.

You are shooting yourselves in the foot by streaming.
how?

I buy if i like and dont if i get bored after one episode... how they losing money on me?
Because the continuation of a programme is based on viwing figures (as Ali-kat says in the US), not on DVD sales.

OK, so it's US viewing figures, but how many US people are doing the same as some on here and watching them illegally, then moan when a series they like is canned?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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In the US at least, I think the viewers watching directly on cable is dropping sharply, but the number watching online via whatever website, be it Hulu, or the like, nips on the rise. Digital viewing is taking over. Digital rentals have overtaken physical rentals as well. There was an open letter to the content providers written, somewhere I read once, and it was an excellent breakdown in why people pirate, and why it is up to the content providers to act not to stop piracy, but to make these things more palatable for the consumer. These is a reason people pirate. It is not simple because they want to rip people off. It is mainly, IMHO, because they are fed up of being ripped off themselves.

Found it
https://www.insightcommunity.com/step2/311/why-i-p...


ali_kat

31,988 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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AshVX220 said:
Because the continuation of a programme is based on viwing figures (as Ali-kat says in the US), not on DVD sales.

OK, so it's US viewing figures, but how many US people are doing the same as some on here and watching them illegally, then moan when a series they like is canned?
Ermm nono watching a TV programme from the USA in the USA that has already aired in the USA is not viewing it illegally (IIRC).

I would imagine that the recording/streaming in the USA would go towards the viewing figures, a bit like using Sky+/iPlayer etc for the BBC etc does here.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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ali_kat said:
Ermm nono watching a TV programme from the USA in the USA that has already aired in the USA is not viewing it illegally (IIRC).

I would imagine that the recording/streaming in the USA would go towards the viewing figures, a bit like using Sky+/iPlayer etc for the BBC etc does here.
Surely it depends on where it's being streamed from?

As the Heretic says, illegal streaming in the US is on the rise, it maybe that the people that makes such things will just say bks and not bother anymore rather than the hassle of trying to appease to people who don't want to watch an advert or whatever.

I'm trying hard not to sounds like a grumpy old tt or get on a high horse or whatever, but I think by watching illrgally, here or in the US, you're shooting yourselves in the foot. Initally it'll be when the programmes you like are canned after 1 season. Eventually it'll be when proper paywalls go up or something and then everyone loses out.

Complaining that you're being ripped off doesn't wash, like all things, if you don't like the price then don't use/watch the product? It costs what it costs because that's what the market deems it to be worth. The cost to us, mostly (from what I can tell on these threads) is to sit through some adverts, hardly a hardship or extravagance is it?

Anyway, that's just my view on illegal downloads etc, if you don't like the price of something don't pay it and go without.

Now, back to the question that started my mini-rant (wasn't really a rant, just a discussion), when's this going to air in the UK. smile

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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AshVX220 said:
Surely it depends on where it's being streamed from?

As the Heretic says, illegal streaming in the US is on the rise, it maybe that the people that makes such things will just say bks and not bother anymore rather than the hassle of trying to appease to people who don't want to watch an advert or whatever.

smile
No, streaming on Hulu, etc, is perfectly legal, just like watching via iPlayer is legal.

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Personally, I have tried (legal) streaming with the likes of LoveFilm and I didn't like it. It's like having the same quality picture and sound as a video from the '80's! What is the point? I prefer to buy the box set when it's available and enjoy the picture quality and DTS sound. Moreso with material with special effects galore.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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TheHeretic said:
No, streaming on Hulu, etc, is perfectly legal, just like watching via iPlayer is legal.
Didn't you (or someone) say earlier though that to use Hulu, or similar, you need to go through a Proxy Server to hide you location, because the content is not for the UK, therefore illegal? (genuine question, I'm not being arsey). or is Hulu a site that allows UK streaming?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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AshVX220 said:
Didn't you (or someone) say earlier though that to use Hulu, or similar, you need to go through a Proxy Server to hide you location, because the content is not for the UK, therefore illegal? (genuine question, I'm not being arsey). or is Hulu a site that allows UK streaming?
I watched Hulu in the US. It is illegal, (I think), to watch outside those territories. However, the info I gave about numbers is for the US. So, legal there.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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TheHeretic said:
I watched Hulu in the US. It is illegal, (I think), to watch outside those territories. However, the info I gave about numbers is for the US. So, legal there.
Cool, cheers. thumbup

ali_kat

31,988 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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TheHeretic said:
A few holes, (the lights on the plane for one, but without them, you wouldn't see the multiple planes falling out of the sky in the distance). Planes in a flat spin as they have no control of their control surfaces? No idea on that one. It is a TV show, not a documentary. Bullets are not electrical, they are chemical. Whatever this thing is that stopped electricity from working would not affect bullets, or their manufacture. The internal combustion engine requires a spark. The shonky old PC works because she has a locket gizmo of electrical wonder. That is obviously the key.

The holes were not enough to put me off.
Watching e2

Without giving spoilers out

Holes start to be explained

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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ali_kat said:
But they can them based on USA viewing figures, not UK!

We were not 1/2way through S1 of Alcatraz when they announced it would be no more, USA was pretty much done & dusted.
Alcatraz turned boring as frak and predictable in two episodes. They don't do themselves any favours by stretching the story out with fodder for 13 episodes.biggrin

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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I'm detecting a slight smidgen of right wing bias in this program. Without giving too much away, the nasty people took away everybody's guns and burn US flags.

Salgar

3,283 posts

183 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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So, just found this thread, and I found it because I wanted to say.

The plot is ok, could be great, but I can very much see this going the way of 'flashforward' and 'the event' and 'jericho'.

And I can see it getting there even faster because that girl is so whiny and annoying.

Hope it gets better though.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Episode 3 available.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Episode 5 fk me, I cannot abide ineptitude. When you see the train bit, you'll k ow what I mean

ali_kat

31,988 posts

220 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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rofl

yes

VEA

4,785 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Anyone still watching this?

I am up to the latest episode now...

anyone know what the thing at the end is? I'm guessing it's the machine that is keeping the power off?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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No idea what it is. Could be the thing keeping the power off, or the thing to bring it back.

VEA

4,785 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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TheHeretic said:
No idea what it is. Could be the thing keeping the power off, or the thing to bring it back.
I looked like it was steaming, or at least doing something... I think as it goes on this could get quite interesting

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Do we know if this is coming to normal telly in the UK yet? Or is the only way to see via streaming?