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GG89
1,485 posts
55 months
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Never heard of this before, I flicked past it. I'll watch on +1 now but cheers for the heads up.
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Happy82
5,183 posts
38 months
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billybob69 said: the biggest let-down is when it finishes, you just want it to continue. can't wait for the sequel.. I like to think of Battle Los Angeles as the sequel, cannot imagine the prawns returning in peace 
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Pesty
25,894 posts
125 months
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thats how you develope characters so you care about them. are you listening Ridly!
focking brilliant film
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Zaxxon
4,057 posts
29 months
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Bloody hell that was good. Thought it was a bit naff at the start but the story dragged me in, very well written and acted. I want that mech suit 
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BenniiP
187 posts
17 months
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Seen it once before, thought it was epic. On +1, had the same reaction. Truly superb.
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Pesty
25,894 posts
125 months
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Zaxxon said: Bloody hell that was good. Thought it was a bit naff at the start but the story dragged me in, very well written and acted. I want that mech suit same here. i had heard all the hype after a few minutes was about to turn it off for some reason gave it a few more minutes and was hooked.
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Swordman
156 posts
33 months
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Isn't this just a massively racist film?
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Pesty
25,894 posts
125 months
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Swordman said: Isn't this just a massively racist film? yes those bloody prawns are filty things. when teh film came out a lot of people said teh story mirrored the white treatment of blacks with aparteid and townships etc etc. but no its not a racist film.
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Swordman
156 posts
33 months
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Pesty said: yes those bloody prawns are filty things.
when teh film came out a lot of people said teh story mirrored the white treatment of blacks with aparteid and townships etc etc.
but no its not a racist film. Well, this is how I saw it (maybe I'm wrong, but I could easily see how some people might be offended): Aliens = black people Aliens are dirty, filthy scum, and everyone wants them out. Nigerian gangsters were cannibals that had a witch doctor and had prostitutes that had sex with aliens (bestiality). Whether or not the aliens represented black people, could be a non-issue as it's a film about aliens, not black people. However, the portrayal of the Nigerian gangsters was full on, blatant racism! Could be worse, I guess. It could be like Crank.
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Brother D
851 posts
45 months
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Swordman said: Well, this is how I saw it (maybe I'm wrong, but I could easily see how some people might be offended):
Aliens = black people
Aliens are dirty, filthy scum, and everyone wants them out.
Nigerian gangsters were cannibals that had a witch doctor and had prostitutes that had sex with aliens (bestiality).
Whether or not the aliens represented black people, could be a non-issue as it's a film about aliens, not black people. However, the portrayal of the Nigerian gangsters was full on, blatant racism!
Could be worse, I guess. It could be like Crank. Was Crank racist? I thought it was just rather dreadful.
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Swordman
156 posts
33 months
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Brother D said: Was Crank racist? I thought it was just rather dreadful. I watched Crank ages ago, so my memory of it is a bit hazy. All I remember was that every single ethnic minority in the film was made to look like a powerless, weedy idiot. The only example I can remember was the Indian-looking taxi driver who wanted his fare, but Statham just pointed at him and shouted "AL QUIEDA! AL QUIEDA!!", and then 2 white pensioners (one of whom was a woman), tackled him and started beating him up! I'm sure there were more bits like that. And yes, the film was dreadful on top of that, too!
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Pesty
25,894 posts
125 months
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Swordman said: . However, the portrayal of the Nigerian gangsters was full on, blatant racism!
. have you ever met a nigerian gangster? or some some rough south africans from the townships? I only spent a week there but the stories on the news were beyond a joke. Art imitates real life in this case i think. life is cheap down there.
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Pints
14,723 posts
63 months
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As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it felt like a documentary with "names and races changed to protect the victims".
I say this as one who was born in SA and spent the first 2 decades of my life there.
Very good film, although I suspect some of the more subtle humour and un-subscripted insults may be lost on those not from those parts.
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Papa Hotel
9,591 posts
51 months
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Swordman said: Isn't this just a massively racist film? No, it's a movie about racism. It's a commentary on what happens when you marginalise people who are different to you without learning about their fears and motivations. It's a South African movie about apartheid, pretty much saying "we were wrong" at the end.
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Elroy Blue
5,684 posts
61 months
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It was filmed in a township that had recently been cleared. Those alien houses weren't props, but actual shacks that were once peoples homes.
I did read that some of the interviews with people (of all races) who said they should be sent home etc were about refugees from Zimbabwe.
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Voight Kampff
1,109 posts
29 months
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It is one of my favourite films. It starts out all 'Verhoeven like' with a slightly spoofy documentary/newsflash feel and then progresses into a really gripping adventure. I was almost cheering for the double act as they battled to get where they needed to be and I agree the film does a cracking job of making you feel for the hero and a cgi prawn! That robo-suit is AWESOME!
The racism thing, if you've a chip on your shoulder you'll find it, when the whole storyline is practically a parable of two (and a half) guys battling to defeat the racists, one of them a passive racist himself.
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Pesty
25,894 posts
125 months
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Elroy Blue said: It was filmed in a township that had recently been cleared. Those alien houses weren't props, but actual shacks that were once peoples homes.
I did read that some of the interviews with people (of all races) who said they should be sent home etc were about refugees from Zimbabwe. when i was there there was a story in the news about south africans murdering zimbabwean refugees as they crossed a river to try and get in. men women and children slaughtered. It was local blacks not whites doing it. there were also stories of rapes /murders a girl burnt alive in fact several burnings i was only there a week and only watched teh news a few times.
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jains15
941 posts
42 months
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Swordman said: Whether or not the aliens represented black people, could be a non-issue as it's a film about aliens, not black people. However, the portrayal of the Nigerian gangsters was full on, blatant racism! I'm genuinely interested in this comment. Please could you explain because all I saw was negative stereotyping of gangster (who were black) rather than racism towards black people? For it to be racism there has to be negative discourse surrounding their ethnicity (not a simple acknowledgment of it which is a common mistake in modern times). Now I've only seen the film once and wasn't looking out for racism specifically in the gangster scenes, but I thought the portrayal of them was very stereotypical gangster and maybe a little overdone as you say - w  es etc. but not racist? Or was the Nigerian aspect of it?
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ajprice
7,227 posts
65 months
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I've got the Blu-ray, watched it with adverts anyway . I'm not too good with hospital/operation based bloodjuice, so the lab bits with his arm still turn me a bit green, but it's a really good film.
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Stuck In A Lift
1,434 posts
40 months
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Pesty said: Swordman said: . However, the portrayal of the Nigerian gangsters was full on, blatant racism!
. have you ever met a nigerian gangster? or some some rough south africans from the townships? I only spent a week there but the stories on the news were beyond a joke. Art imitates real life in this case i think. life is cheap down there. Perhaps I am reading into this a bit too much, so please can you clarify it for me. Is Goodfellas Racist? Or the Sopranos? They both portray Italian gangsters.
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