The Men Who Made Us Fat
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I missed this, did they mention that pizza is now a vegetable?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/pizza-veg...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/pizza-veg...
It's not quite as simple as carbs are bad and meat is good. It depends on the carbs, and too much of anything isn't good. Our diets are very carb heavy now though.
There are a few threads in the health forum about this, and some people who have been experimenting for years and are very knowledgeable.
Grumble, I watched a show a few years ago that explained why Atkins worked for people, they ate less on it, the fat/protein in the food stimulated the brain to say 'no more' full up, when they studied what people actually ate volume wise on the Atkins versus another 'diet'.
Next week they will how our (US/UK) diet has changed in the last 30 years.
There are a few threads in the health forum about this, and some people who have been experimenting for years and are very knowledgeable.
Grumble, I watched a show a few years ago that explained why Atkins worked for people, they ate less on it, the fat/protein in the food stimulated the brain to say 'no more' full up, when they studied what people actually ate volume wise on the Atkins versus another 'diet'.
EDLT said:
I missed this, did they mention that pizza is now a vegetable?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/pizza-veg...
Most funny...or sad? I watched Jamie Oliver in his show about American schools, the nutritional advice for American school children is disgusting, they want a nation of stupid fatties. And encouraging kids to drink sugar rich milkshakes, pizza, deep fried foods and bread as a healthy diet is insane.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/16/pizza-veg...
Next week they will how our (US/UK) diet has changed in the last 30 years.
SpeedBash said:
This article was linked.http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/15/hig...
All pretence of free market goes out the window and it's just about making people addicted and reaming them of their cash. Who cares that society will be buried under the weight of it's own blubber.
Just like drug dealers.
'Hey try our new product, it's called
grumbledoak said:
Gary Taubes book is good, too. He goes further back (depression era) and wider in scope (carbohydates in general drive insulin drive getting fat). Worth a read. Mind, I was convinced by Atkins' and Eades' books.
Taubes' latest book is much better - it's less than an inch thick for a start. I have been able to loan it out to people. Shame that the book is bright red in colour and called "Why we get fat" or something similar, as it's not one you can read on the train.Halb said:
oldbanger said:
Shame that the book is bright red in colour and called "Why we get fat" or something similar, as it's not one you can read on the train.
It is, so long as you are munching on a footlong hot-dog dribbling tomato sauce down your shirt.I quite enjoyed that programme. Just watched it on iplayer and will Sky+ the next two.
I think we need to re-adjust our perception of fat and overweight. I cycled over to Race for Life yesterday and watched thousands of people go by. We've never had so many fat people. I saw about a dozen other cyclists and the rest mostly drove there. Many people then sat and ate far in excess of the energy they'd burnt on a gentle 5k.
I think we need to re-adjust our perception of fat and overweight. I cycled over to Race for Life yesterday and watched thousands of people go by. We've never had so many fat people. I saw about a dozen other cyclists and the rest mostly drove there. Many people then sat and ate far in excess of the energy they'd burnt on a gentle 5k.
B Huey said:
Halb said:
On now, BBC2.
1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
I've heard these stats and I don't believe it. You only need to look around to see they are rubbish.1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
No way the vast majority of people are overweight.
Sitting in a coffee house yesterday, looking around, fatties everywhere. One lady, I looked at her and I was mildly surprised she could shift her own frame, another was in a mobility scooter. There were at least three people who I estimated at over 20 stones.
The trouble is, overweight is becoming normal/accepted, fat is becoming overweight, and obese is becoming fat.
Edited by Halb on Sunday 17th June 10:44
Halb said:
B Huey said:
Halb said:
On now, BBC2.
1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
I've heard these stats and I don't believe it. You only need to look around to see they are rubbish.1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
No way the vast majority of people are overweight.
Sitting in a coffee house yesterday, looking around, fatties everywhere.
Lost soul said:
I see fat people all over the place
Stop snooping on me and mine!Magic919 said:
I think we need to re-adjust our perception of fat and overweight. I cycled over to Race for Life yesterday and watched thousands of people go by. We've never had so many fat people. I saw about a dozen other cyclists and the rest mostly drove there. Many people then sat and ate far in excess of the energy they'd burnt on a gentle 5k.
Quite. Perceptions have shifted somewhat in the last 30 years.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff