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Flibble

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65 months

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Monday 6th August 2012 quote quote all
Halb said:
Found that one a lot less interesting than the sugar lecture. Just seemed to be pushing his vegan agenda a bit too much. Any diet where you have to take a multivitamin is flawed if you ask me.

Flibble

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dave_s13 said:
As mentioned already the carb -> insulin -> Glycogen -> fat storage process seems to be the thing making us fat. i.e. you can eat a bacon omlette cooked in butter and your body will use all those calories and not store any. If you add white bread and some baked beans then that triggers the body to store anything not used up as fat.

I've simplified that a lot, based on my scant information. It's an interesting subject though and sparks interesting debate.
To clear up something here - you eat a bacon omelette you'll get a nice fat insulin spike. Not as much as eating sugary or starchy foods, but still more than enough to do trigger all the insulin mediated things. Given that hunger and satiety hormones are driven by the same things that drive insulin this is a good thing, if you got no insulin response you wouldn't feel satisfied and would want to eat more. This is the problem with fructose (and by association, sugar) which is partly why it makes you fat.

Halb

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23,252 posts

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Monday 6th August 2012 quote quote all
Flibble said:
Found that one a lot less interesting than the sugar lecture. Just seemed to be pushing his vegan agenda a bit too much. Any diet where you have to take a multivitamin is flawed if you ask me.
Yeah same here a bit. I agree about the multivitamins thing too. I also wasn't happy with the soy stuff. But there was still good stuff in there.
I wonder if chip shops starting sprinkling sugar in their chips/batter if they're custom would go up?biggrin
Also, eggs seriously fill me up, but then so does porridge.biggrin

Halb

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23,252 posts

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Monday 6th August 2012 quote quote all
Science behind fasting on BBC 1 now.

Halb

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Art0ir

7,108 posts

54 months

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Wednesday 5th September 2012 quote quote all
Halb said:
Why would they do anything? They get a nation of wobbling, docile idiots while they continue down their trodden path in search of more money and power.

Halb

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23,252 posts

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Anyone watch Dispatches, the Great School Dinner Scandal?
Christ that Gove is a weapons grade cocksocket.

Magic919

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85 months

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Monday 10th September 2012 quote quote all
Just recording it now. And the programme that follows (also food-related).

Halb

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dave_s13

9,379 posts

153 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Halb said:
I wonder if chip shops starting sprinkling sugar in their chips/batter if they're custom would go up?biggrin
I can't eat fish n chips without lashings of tomato sauce and/or curry sauce, which is essentially sugar non?

Halb

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23,252 posts

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I used to love tommy sauce on me chips, but I do prefer them without now. I find tommy sauce too sickly sweet for me.
I do still like curry and gravy.

Here's another great vid.
http://www.hungryforchange.tv/book-free-screening

I think this free screening ends in 1 day.

LordGrover

22,070 posts

96 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Watched FOOD, Inc on Netflix yesterday. More scary stuff about what we eat, mainly US-centric but the same principles apply worldwide, I suspect.

Halb

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Came across an Alex Jones vid for food this week (yes I know), not watched it yet so I don't really know what it is like. My connexion (patience) can only handle one big vid every few days.biggrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMwXlikoFrM

Halb

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Thursday 7th February 2013 quote quote all
Great interview with Lustig.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/heresthething/2012/jul/0...

said:
Robert Lustig: Oh, way because there’s no toxic downside. With sugar, Type II diabetes, hypertension, dyslipidemia, gastric bypasses. $147 billion a year down a rat hole for taking care of chronic diseases which don’t need to be. We could balance the budget on that. We wouldn’t need healthcare reform if we had obesity reform and we can’t have obesity reform until we have some sort of sugar policy.
Edited by Halb on Thursday 7th February 10:00

LordGrover

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96 months

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Thursday 7th February 2013 quote quote all
Haven't read this topic in a while so apols if repost.
I'm reading Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes - if the claims made stand up it's quite astonishing. Not half way through yet though.

Halb

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Halb

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Thursday 21st February 2013 quote quote all
Article.


Doctors/Scientists..."sugar is bad."

Sugar owner..."Weeeell, the science isn't clear..."

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57407294/is-...

mattikake

4,461 posts

83 months

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Thursday 21st February 2013 quote quote all
Sugar (high GI foods) has only recently been proven (press release yesterday!) to be a cause of acne.

Sugar is a real bad boi.

LordGrover

22,070 posts

96 months

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Friday 22nd February 2013 quote quote all
... so sugar-cos a bit like tobacco-cos of yesteryear and alcohol-cos of tomorrow? hehe

oldbanger

2,591 posts

122 months

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Flibble said:
To clear up something here - you eat a bacon omelette you'll get a nice fat insulin spike. Not as much as eating sugary or starchy foods, but still more than enough to do trigger all the insulin mediated things. Given that hunger and satiety hormones are driven by the same things that drive insulin this is a good thing, if you got no insulin response you wouldn't feel satisfied and would want to eat more. This is the problem with fructose (and by association, sugar) which is partly why it makes you fat.
nope it's leptin release that causes satiety not insulin

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