The Men Who Made Us Fat

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BliarOut said:

I've just been to Tesco, trying to figure out what's actually healthy and what isn't is a nightmare, half the stuff doesn't even have GDA percentages.

I was in Tesco today as well. Checking the RDAs. Sugar is in everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18770328

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Mojooo said:

On the plus side, EU rules mean that in a few eyars most food manufacturers will have to provide a detailed nurtional table - so it info will be there for those that want to spend the time workign it out. All you have to do is decide how much fat/sugaretc you wnat per day then just work our what you are buyign has per 100g/serving.

I hope so.Some of those foreign products I looked at were just indecipherable.

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Magic919 said:

This is worth a look, albeit over an hour long. Sugar, the bitter truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ&fea...

Finally watched it.
Brilliant brilliant lecture.

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Not been to the USA for a while but I can imagine, I knew it was in their bread. There must be healthy alternatives?

Mojooo said:

80 minutes just to tell us sugar is bad?

If it wasn't a very detailed 80 minutes it might be easier to dismiss what he says.
Don't forget he is trying to help people get over 30-40 years of bad nutritional advice based on misconceptions, poor science, bad faith and outright lies.
The low fat, calorie in calorie out, don't eat at night etc. There are a lot of things that people think are good for them and it still tastes good...hard to overcome and as the guy says this will never be a top down change, too much money. It has to be a bottom up change and for that you need a comprehensive and exhaustive argument. If you just went up to someone and said, 'hey sugar bad', they'd go, yeah so what?

Edit.
Just to add yeah there was a lot of crossover, the main difference was that he makes no distinction between HFCS and sugar.
Also I think he said exercise makes no difference under the condition you continue to eat your packet of cookies. Which is true, for weight loss you do also need to reduce the intake, if you don't wanna be a fit fattie.

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 18th July 07:28

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Horizon:The Truth About Looking Young was on this week.
Sugar also got hit as a big baddie is helping people to look older than they are.

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Sprinkle some sugar on it, should be reet then.

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How to magnetise a baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWi6dXCT7I&fea...

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grumbledoak said:

Halb said:

How to magnetise a baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWi6dXCT7I&fea...

vegetable said:

"visit the VegSource store"

Yup, couldn't possibly be an agenda there. Just 'cos something triggers the release of these chemicals doesn't mean we have to turn vegan. So does sex, and any number of other things that are good for survival of the species.

Of course there is an agenda, if you watch the lecture you'll see it. Cut out the stuff that helps cancer.

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Flibble said:

Found that one a lot less interesting than the sugar lecture. Just seemed to be pushing his vegan agenda a bit too much. Any diet where you have to take a multivitamin is flawed if you ask me.

Yeah same here a bit. I agree about the multivitamins thing too. I also wasn't happy with the soy stuff. But there was still good stuff in there.
I wonder if chip shops starting sprinkling sugar in their chips/batter if they're custom would go up?
Also, eggs seriously fill me up, but then so does porridge.

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Science behind fasting on BBC 1 now.

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Government's "dereliction of duty" over obesity crisis

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Anyone watch Dispatches, the Great School Dinner Scandal?
Christ that Gove is a weapons grade cocksocket.

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Is Alzheimer’s Type 3 Diabetes?
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/bi...

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I used to love tommy sauce on me chips, but I do prefer them without now. I find tommy sauce too sickly sweet for me.
I do still like curry and gravy.

Here's another great vid.
http://www.hungryforchange.tv/book-free-screening

I think this free screening ends in 1 day.

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Came across an Alex Jones vid for food this week (yes I know), not watched it yet so I don't really know what it is like. My connexion (patience) can only handle one big vid every few days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMwXlikoFrM

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Great interview with Lustig.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/heresthething/2012/jul/0...

said:

Robert Lustig: Oh, way because there’s no toxic downside. With sugar, Type II diabetes, hypertension, dyslipidemia, gastric bypasses. $147 billion a year down a rat hole for taking care of chronic diseases which don’t need to be. We could balance the budget on that. We wouldn’t need healthcare reform if we had obesity reform and we can’t have obesity reform until we have some sort of sugar policy.

Edited by Halb on Thursday 7th February 10:00

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http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-07/sc...

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Article.


Doctors/Scientists..."sugar is bad."

Sugar owner..."Weeeell, the science isn't clear..."



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57407294/is-...

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Nice 1h10m lecture by Gary Taubes, takes a while to get there, but veeerryy interesticnjk.
Nice history of what was known, and when, that is rather intriguing.
Many things to comment on here, how doctors equate carbs=bad as quackery.

Why We Get Fat


Fun lil animated of vid of why we get fat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj6c4VF3DD8


edit.

Another great chat with Taubes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59YyXpCT1M

Edited by Halb on Friday 1st March 20:23

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LordGrover said:

Thanks.

Have you read Good Calories, Bad Calories?

I haven't, but...I do own the book!!!
Bought it over two years ago I think....sheesh, I really need to work down my to-do list...