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ali_kat

22,580 posts

91 months

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rich1231 said:
Jasandjules said:
So they can get Lord of the Rings into three films (admittedly at 3 hours each) but The Hobbit is also a trilogy?!?
Loads of stories in Appendices joining Hobbit to LOTR, thts the meat of the second and third films I would guess.
Exactly what I said on Sunday J&J, and although it kills me to say it hehe Rich is right

Peter Jackson's blog said:
It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.'

We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three.


It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling."

S10GTA

2,653 posts

37 months

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woohoo

I cannot wait.

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The Beaver King

3,609 posts

65 months

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I'm quite glad to hear this.

Anybody that has watched the director's cut of LOTR will realise how much of the film they had to cut due to the length, including some scenes that I would have considered vital i.e. the death of Saruman at the start of The Return Of The King.

Hopefully three films will allow them to keep more of the original book in.

300bhp/ton

26,709 posts

60 months

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Jasandjules said:
So they can get Lord of the Rings into three films (admittedly at 3 hours each) but The Hobbit is also a trilogy?!?
The got "some" of Lord of the Rings into 3 films by missing out loads.

I think it's great that there's a chance of a film version actually telling the same story as the book with the Hobbit. Much rather this than some hashed up crap just to play on the Hobbit name and produce a totally rubbish film missing out the majority of the book.

300bhp/ton

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60 months

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otolith said:
The Silmarillion is largely Tolkien showing his working - essentially an enormous mythological back-story creating the world in which the published novels are played out. The kind of thing that's notably lacking from things like Lost or the Alien franchise and shows up in the impression that the back story is being reinvented to suit the writer making it up as he goes along.
This.

It helps demonstrate that the Hobbit and the LoTR was not just a book, but a creation out of entire reality and fantasy realm. So much more indepth and involving.
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MartG

2,790 posts

74 months

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300bhp/ton said:
The got "some" of Lord of the Rings into 3 films by missing out loads.
^ This

I do hope that at some point he films some more to fill in the gaps - e.g. Tom Bombadil

rich1231

16,636 posts

130 months

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Ali, I am always right.

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

30 months

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Brilliant, as long as there is no mention of Attercop!


Nightmare

4,456 posts

154 months

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MartG said:
^ This

I do hope that at some point he films some more to fill in the gaps - e.g. Tom Bombadil
God really??? That was one bit I was happy to see consigned to the bin!

SWoll

4,430 posts

128 months

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Friday 3rd August 2012 quote quote all
MartG said:
300bhp/ton said:
The got "some" of Lord of the Rings into 3 films by missing out loads.
^ This

I do hope that at some point he films some more to fill in the gaps - e.g. Tom Bombadil
MartG said:
God really??? That was one bit I was happy to see consigned to the bin!
Couldn't agree more, without a doubt my least favourite part of the LOTR books.

I personally think PJ did a fantastic job of bringing LOTR to the screen. He managed to keep all of the important parts of the story in there (especially in extended versions) whilst also making it a more accessible experience for anyone new to the story.

At the end of the day without the huge success of the LOTR films we wouldn't be getting The Hobbit at all, let alone as a trilogy.

Apologies, looks like the quoting went a bit crazy there guys

otolith

19,757 posts

74 months

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Bombadil is an anomaly, even within Tolkien's mythology - I don't think any of the characters understand him, let alone the reader hehe


FunkyNige

4,964 posts

145 months

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Nightmare said:
MartG said:
^ This

I do hope that at some point he films some more to fill in the gaps - e.g. Tom Bombadil
God really??? That was one bit I was happy to see consigned to the bin!
I was glad they removed the songs from the LotR films, I don't know anyone who bothered reading them and yet judging by the trailer The Hobbit has songs in it. I can imagine the projectionist fast forwarding these bits hehe

The Beaver King said:
Anybody that has watched the director's cut of LOTR will realise how much of the film they had to cut due to the length, including some scenes that I would have considered vital i.e. the death of Saruman at the start of The Return Of The King.
Wasn't that at the end of the book after the scouring of the Shire? I haven't seen the extended edition so maybe it makes sense on the screen!

otolith

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74 months

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FunkyNige said:
Wasn't that at the end of the book after the scouring of the Shire? I haven't seen the extended edition so maybe it makes sense on the screen!
Yes - they brought it forward:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFzC-72FlQ4

Johnnytheboy

7,375 posts

56 months

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FunkyNige said:
Wasn't that at the end of the book after the scouring of the Shire? I haven't seen the extended edition so maybe it makes sense on the screen!
Should've been but in the film it happens at the top of Isengard after the battle of Helm's Deep.

The director's cuts are much better. The big battle at Minas Tirith is not only longer but re-ordered somewhat, so the order of events makes much more sense.

Nightmare

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SWoll said:
Couldn't agree more, without a doubt my least favourite part of the LOTR books.

I personally think PJ did a fantastic job of bringing LOTR to the screen. He managed to keep all of the important parts of the story in there (especially in extended versions) whilst also making it a more accessible experience for anyone new to the story.

At the end of the day without the huge success of the LOTR films we wouldn't be getting The Hobbit at all, let alone as a trilogy.

Apologies, looks like the quoting went a bit crazy there guys
The only things I felt were missing from the films were the wights barrow - cos they got things in it relevant going forward (I know that then involved TB but never felt it had to - and the whole 'all that glitters is not gold' thing - which would have fitted in easily and made sense. But yeah - astonishgly good adaption IMO too.

ViperPict

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107 months

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This is just bks.

Totally about cashing in - three parts = times the revenue.

The story could be made into one long film or easily 2 medium length ones.

When did Jackson start taking it up the arse from the Hollywood powers that be?

The story will be far worse for this.

300bhp/ton

26,709 posts

60 months

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ViperPict said:
This is just bks.

Totally about cashing in - three parts = times the revenue.

The story could be made into one long film or easily 2 medium length ones.

When did Jackson start taking it up the arse from the Hollywood powers that be?

The story will be far worse for this.
I don't see how it'll be worse, it 'should' be far more accurate and actually be the story of the book. Time to get all the little details and character traits and depths included.

ViperPict

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300bhp/ton said:
ViperPict said:
This is just bks.

Totally about cashing in - three parts = times the revenue.

The story could be made into one long film or easily 2 medium length ones.

When did Jackson start taking it up the arse from the Hollywood powers that be?

The story will be far worse for this.
I don't see how it'll be worse, it 'should' be far more accurate and actually be the story of the book. Time to get all the little details and character traits and depths included.
The skill in turning a book into a film is getting the story across in under 2 hours.

otolith

19,757 posts

74 months

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ViperPict said:
The skill in turning a book into a film is getting the story across in under 2 hours.
The skill in turning a book into a 2 hour film is knowing how much of it to include. So he's noticed that there is enough material to make three films and is making all of them.

300bhp/ton

26,709 posts

60 months

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ViperPict said:
The skill in turning a book into a film is getting the story across in under 2 hours.
Not in my opinion. I hate it when books are ruined as films, missing out loads of content, rushing the story and sacrificing plot and characters. In fact I'd rather they didn't bother at all tbh. If you're going to do it, do it right I say.
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