Wheeler Dealers - New Series 2012
Discussion
Nikolai said:
Not to excited on todays episode, mk2 Jag does nothing for me, very dull. And mechanical sympathy and Mike Brewer are mutually exclusive.
Disagree about the Jag, but agree about Mike Brewer. I always cringe when he SLAMS doors, sits on bonnets, BANGS roofs and SLAMS boots.Am I the only one thinking that Jag could have seen some track action? The track & wheels looked quite a bit wider than normal, plus the ride looked firm as previously mentioned, open carbs, bonnet straps and fruity exhaust.
With the exterior being 'usable' and a very dodgy interior, I imagine the original seats were thrown back in after the buckets were removed.
With the exterior being 'usable' and a very dodgy interior, I imagine the original seats were thrown back in after the buckets were removed.
graham22 said:
Am I the only one thinking that Jag could have seen some track action? The track & wheels looked quite a bit wider than normal, plus the ride looked firm as previously mentioned, open carbs, bonnet straps and fruity exhaust.
With the exterior being 'usable' and a very dodgy interior, I imagine the original seats were thrown back in after the buckets were removed.
'Race prepared', 'competitive racing' & 'club racing car' are all terms that have been used in the various adverts I've seen for this car in the past six years or so (eBay and Pistonheads included). Sadly, the fact is these claims cannot be substantiated either by paperwork or mechanical evidence. In fact I tried to warn past advertisers that these claims cannot be submitted without such proof.With the exterior being 'usable' and a very dodgy interior, I imagine the original seats were thrown back in after the buckets were removed.
My son and I owned this car for many years (purchasing it as a restoration project), and for a long time just couldn't decide what to do with it in view of the ham fisted alterations the car had been subjected to. It was a mishmash of parts from other models and was clearly a poorly executed bitsa.
I must say the previous owners who altered the car certainly had a passion for spannerwork, but sadly this wasn't backed up with any aptitude for logical engineering skills.
In view of the cost and work needed to return this car to a presentable factory standard, we decided to finish off what the previous owner(s) had tried to accomplish (a quasi-racer possibly).
All worn and non compatible parts were replaced and various glaring safety issues attended to. We ended up at least with a car that was brash, smart and roadworthy, albeit not very original.
Whilst Mike and Edd did their best to entertain us, it was notable that nothing was said or suggested that this car has many non-standard fittings, knowledgable viewers had to glean that fact by spotting things from odd shots of the engine bay and bodywork.
The relatively low purchase / selling price for a Mk2 described as "straight and with no rust" etc., is a great pointer that there was something a little different about this car.
As for the 1st/2nd gear issues Mike had, perhaps the idiosyncrasies of the Moss gearbox was not fully appreciated.
Don't get me wrong this car is a real snorter and much more a hoot to drive than a standard model could ever be.
Some interesting figures for the Willys Jeep which they allegedly sold for £16000.
He paid $13000 which they translated to £8000 which I'll allow them. The only other figure thay added was £2000 shipping.
Now with the best will in the world, you have to pay 5% import duty (historical vehicle) which takes it up to £8400 then add the shipping for which I'm going to play with the figures and say £1000. You then have to add 20% VAT bringing it up to £11280.
Then he bought a $900 gearbox and a first aid kit for $150 which is another £650. I'll skip the 3.5% import duty and go straight to the VAT making it £780 and we're up to £12060 without shipping but let's add back on the other £1000 and assume they splashed out on a container so all the parts and the repair panel came in that and we're at £13060
The repair panel wasn't hugely expensive so let's call that £200 all in and we're at £13260.
I could see no evidence the vehicle had been registered for the road albeit I assume it would be tax exampt but would need an MOT so let's say £13300.
The labour time on this was immense and the hire of a spot welder essential. You'd also need a workshop to take the body apart.
All in all, it ended up as a very nice car but with rather less profit in it than was suggested by my reckoning.
Edited to add: I believe this vehicle would qualify as a historical vehicle so only 5% VAT would in fact be levied.
He paid $13000 which they translated to £8000 which I'll allow them. The only other figure thay added was £2000 shipping.
Now with the best will in the world, you have to pay 5% import duty (historical vehicle) which takes it up to £8400 then add the shipping for which I'm going to play with the figures and say £1000. You then have to add 20% VAT bringing it up to £11280.
Then he bought a $900 gearbox and a first aid kit for $150 which is another £650. I'll skip the 3.5% import duty and go straight to the VAT making it £780 and we're up to £12060 without shipping but let's add back on the other £1000 and assume they splashed out on a container so all the parts and the repair panel came in that and we're at £13060
The repair panel wasn't hugely expensive so let's call that £200 all in and we're at £13260.
I could see no evidence the vehicle had been registered for the road albeit I assume it would be tax exampt but would need an MOT so let's say £13300.
The labour time on this was immense and the hire of a spot welder essential. You'd also need a workshop to take the body apart.
All in all, it ended up as a very nice car but with rather less profit in it than was suggested by my reckoning.
Edited to add: I believe this vehicle would qualify as a historical vehicle so only 5% VAT would in fact be levied.
Edited by LuS1fer on Tuesday 9th October 20:12
king funny though 
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