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German

197 posts

32 months

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I really need to watch this at some point....it'll make me cry, but I just need to. The comments so far make the episode of pimp my ride with the split screen camper spring to mind, and the rust "repairs"...

2 Wycked

2,133 posts

116 months

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cmoose said:
Ha, after last week's debacle, "Dylan" has had to trade in his E31 for a poverty spec E46.
I'm glad you've said this. Whilst they did the bit where he was driving to value the car I was sat thinking "oooh a nice old 8-Series" and then it turned out to be a boring old 3-Series. I'm assuming the first part is just library footage as part of that sequence.

thecurleyone

21 posts

54 months

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You get a good engine for your £22,000 though!
Bernie said in his description of how the distributor works that the rotor arm spins at up to 7,000rpm!
This must surely mean then that the crank turns at up to 14,000rpm!
Distributor turns at half crank speed as far as I know...
14,000rpm flat six, should sound superb!
More true facts from Classic Car Rescue.

hedgefinder

2,603 posts

55 months

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thecurleyone said:
You get a good engine for your £22,000 though!
Bernie said in his description of how the distributor works that the rotor arm spins at up to 7,000rpm!
This must surely mean then that the crank turns at up to 14,000rpm!
Distributor turns at half crank speed as far as I know...
14,000rpm flat six, should sound superb!
More true facts from Classic Car Rescue.
to quote channel 5 - "Bernie is a highly experienced automotive manager, master technician, workshop controller and technical engineer"

Laurel Green

17,828 posts

117 months

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hedgefinder said:
to quote channel 5 - "Bernie is a highly experienced automotive manager, master technician, workshop controller and technical engineer"
They failed to mention 'bullstter extraordinaire'.
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Jerry Can

1,746 posts

108 months

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hedgefinder said:
to quote channel 5 - "Bernie is a highly experienced automotive manager (he shouts at his staff), master technician ( he swears at his tools), workshop controller (he shouts at his staff and his tools) and technical engineer (he shouts at the car)"
Edited for accuracy.

rohrl

5,291 posts

30 months

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There's a US hotrod equivalent on Discovery right now. It's called Fast n' Loud and they're doing a Ford Model A.

davamer23

321 posts

39 months

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This show is unbelievable!! Bernie (supposed 50 years of experience-what he don't know ain't worth knowing) can't even spot a real shoddy repair job on the porker and then his supposed mechanic is 80-90% certain it's a cut n shut until the supposed 30 years experience of classic cars and self styled porsche expert Mario 'Romero' Pacione saves the day by identifying the 'real' problem, Come on Channel 5, you're having a giraffe! (That's rhyming slang for 'laugh' by the way Mario)
Aside from the copious amount of set-up arguing, shouting, shoddy, amateur, cowboy filler happy T*ts and general dumbing down, one of the many things I just couldn't believe was Mario painting the calipers with a poundland paint brush and 'touching up scratches' with it too!!
Then the numpty in the E46 this week, who supposedly is an industry expert on classic car valuation, no offence to E46 owners, but why ain't he driving a true classic himself? He turns up, doesn't get under the car, no paperwork, as far as he knows this car could be a Cat D in the past, comes to the conclusion that this bright orange lump of filler on wheels with a few second hand porsche bits attached, is worth £22,000!!
Channel 5 no doubt would try to explain that he does a much more thorough valuation etc etc but for purposes of a tv program that is approx 40 mins with adverts they need to portray it that way. However come on channel 5, it's a poor poor production using unknowledgeable cowboys who don't know their stuff basicly bodging 'restorations' of two cars and you charge unsuspecting people £1.50 a pop to enter to Win these cars. Which, in reality, need their supposed value and more besides spending on them by proper restorers with real knowledge, just to put them right.
Shame really, don't you think.
Rant over- Just my Humble Opinion
Can't wait to see em butcher an MGBGT next week- literally car crash tv!

Killer2005

16,061 posts

113 months

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rohrl said:
There's a US hotrod equivalent on Discovery right now. It's called Fast n' Loud and they're doing a Ford Model A.
Far better IMHO. They actually appear to be genuine chaps, and there's far less drama and bullst in the program

fatboy69

6,114 posts

72 months

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Wheeler Dealers - how to do it properly. No Bernie Bullst, no filler, no set up 'disagreements'.

Are you watching this C5?

hedgefinder

2,603 posts

55 months

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rohrl said:
There's a US hotrod equivalent on Discovery right now. It's called Fast n' Loud and they're doing a Ford Model A.
not anywhere near ... they do proper bare metal restos with funnily enough - new or refurbished parts and actually knwoing what they are doing at least the valuations are a little more realistic..

david29dpo

28 posts

103 months

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Did that dim wit say the rotor arm spins at 8000rpm when the engine is spinning at 8000rpm?
Since when as a rotor arm done that?

D_G

1,548 posts

94 months

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davamer23 said:
Channel 5 no doubt would try to explain that he does a much more thorough valuation etc etc but for purposes of a tv program that is approx 40 mins with adverts they need to portray it that way. However come on channel 5, it's a poor poor production using unknowledgeable cowboys who don't know their stuff basicly bodging 'restorations' of two cars and you charge unsuspecting people £1.50 a pop to enter to Win these cars. Which, in reality, need their supposed value and more besides spending on them by proper restorers with real knowledge, just to put them right.
That's the point. They are only trying to raise revenue from the texts recieved so if their 'expert' valuer told the truth that they had if fact bodged a car of dubious origin and in fact it's worth much less and is likely to be riddled with issues who would enter the competition?
There is sooo much wrong with this program, not least the fact they have left both cars so badly 'restored'. Not only that the true nature of the work is fully documented for all to see.
The previous owners build thread on the other forum was an interesting read too...

Justin Cyder

12,375 posts

34 months

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D_G said:
all to see.
The previous owners build thread on the other forum was an interesting read too...
Got a linky? Wouldn't mind a looksee at that.

P-Jay

6,525 posts

76 months

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I'm not going to watch anymore of them, I got fed up of that gobste when he was working with that Indian guy.

But I'm glad this progamme is on, firstly because it serves as the perfect "well at least it isn't..." for Wheeler Dealers, which is the full Aston Martin factory restoration in comparassion.

And I'm looking forward to when the first winner takes to the internet to vent their frustation after thinking they were winning a restored car only to find they've been passed a money pit, should make for a hell of a thread.

robemcdonald

1,291 posts

81 months

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davamer23 said:
This show is unbelievable!! Bernie (supposed 50 years of experience-what he don't know ain't worth knowing) can't even spot a real shoddy repair job on the porker and then his supposed mechanic is 80-90% certain it's a cut n shut until the supposed 30 years experience of classic cars and self styled porsche expert Mario 'Romero' Pacione saves the day by identifying the 'real' problem, Come on Channel 5, you're having a giraffe! (That's rhyming slang for 'laugh' by the way Mario)
Aside from the copious amount of set-up arguing, shouting, shoddy, amateur, cowboy filler happy T*ts and general dumbing down, one of the many things I just couldn't believe was Mario painting the calipers with a poundland paint brush and 'touching up scratches' with it too!!
Then the numpty in the E46 this week, who supposedly is an industry expert on classic car valuation, no offence to E46 owners, but why ain't he driving a true classic himself? He turns up, doesn't get under the car, no paperwork, as far as he knows this car could be a Cat D in the past, comes to the conclusion that this bright orange lump of filler on wheels with a few second hand porsche bits attached, is worth £22,000!!
Channel 5 no doubt would try to explain that he does a much more thorough valuation etc etc but for purposes of a tv program that is approx 40 mins with adverts they need to portray it that way. However come on channel 5, it's a poor poor production using unknowledgeable cowboys who don't know their stuff basicly bodging 'restorations' of two cars and you charge unsuspecting people £1.50 a pop to enter to Win these cars. Which, in reality, need their supposed value and more besides spending on them by proper restorers with real knowledge, just to put them right.
Shame really, don't you think.
Rant over- Just my Humble Opinion
Can't wait to see em butcher an MGBGT next week- literally car crash tv!
It's probably fair to say that even though we don't like what they are doing and how they are doing it the end product is:
a) Safe - There is no way a TV company would allow something unroadworthy ot be presented as a competition prize.
b) worth inexcess of the £1.50 entrance fee for the competition.

I'm not saying I like the programme or the idiots on it, but what did they really bodge on that 911? OK its got the wrong details and it will never be a concourse car, but Im sure whoever wins it will be happy with it(no I havent entered the competition). The visual issues could easily be put right by intstalling impact bumpers or an RS look kit (about £3K fitted)then dirve and enjoy.

How many of us know the providence of our pride and joy?

cmoose

25,248 posts

114 months

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robemcdonald said:
I'm not saying I like the programme or the idiots on it, but what did they really bodge on that 911?
What didn't they bodge? They were touching up the body work paint by hand, the black painted window frames were already flaking and probably hadn't been prepped or primed properly before painting, which begs the same question of the body paint. God only knows what they did to "repair" the crash damage. I'm sure it's MOT fit, but that doesn't mean much.

robemcdonald

1,291 posts

81 months

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cmoose said:
robemcdonald said:
I'm not saying I like the programme or the idiots on it, but what did they really bodge on that 911?
What didn't they bodge? They were touching up the body work paint by hand, the black painted window frames were already flaking and probably hadn't been prepped or primed properly before painting, which begs the same question of the body paint. God only knows what they did to "repair" the crash damage. I'm sure it's MOT fit, but that doesn't mean much.
I take your point on the paint. The satin black over non-prepared chrome being a good example. I'm personnally not that bothered by the Canadian bell end touching up the inside of a wheel arch with the massive brush. Like others of said it would be good to see the previous owners build thread to see what the car was really like.
I might even send an email to C5 asking about the quality of the work carried out. Their response could be interesting.

Justin Cyder

12,375 posts

34 months

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I just had a peek over on impact bumpers. The seller is on there & posted this:

The car was a 1977 LHD conversion with a 1985 engine so was never going to be original; my plan (before needing to sell) was a low key fibreglassy backdate. When Bernie told me his plan involved a Rotrex supercharger, fog lights, custom fibreglass and massive wheels I was a little surprised! The funniest thing for me is Bernie; he's a lovely guy until the cameras are rolling!

rohrl

5,291 posts

30 months

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Justin Cyder said:
I just had a peek over on impact bumpers. The seller is on there & posted this:

The car was a 1977 LHD conversion with a 1985 engine so was never going to be original; my plan (before needing to sell) was a low key fibreglassy backdate. When Bernie told me his plan involved a Rotrex supercharger, fog lights, custom fibreglass and massive wheels I was a little surprised! The funniest thing for me is Bernie; he's a lovely guy until the cameras are rolling!
Well that's odd because the car didn't get a supercharger or custom fibreglass or massive wheels.
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