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Halb said:
We never saw the Republic's government, we saw where the resistance had set up a temporary base.
In a coup d'etat, people can get uppity, the successful ones get by by revealing a fait accompli to the masses.
Nothing can defend against a hyperspace weapon. We never got to see what forces the Republic had.
So if the Republic had forces, why not use them?In a coup d'etat, people can get uppity, the successful ones get by by revealing a fait accompli to the masses.
Nothing can defend against a hyperspace weapon. We never got to see what forces the Republic had.
If they didn't, then why completely blow them to pieces, assuming then you'd still have uppity people to deal with any way.
I still don't get the motivations of anyone in the film.
It's like the end of the film has been decided and some goals along the way, and they just drift towards through them.
Oh look, right at the end R2 D2 turns on and finishes the map. Great timing R2. Had you done this a week earlier then Luke could have come and finished the trilogy early
Why not have him show the map right away, but the impending doom of the big spaceship thing means they can't leave just yet.
It just comes across as naff and stupid story telling.
Lovely story on Hollywood Babble-on last week. As some may know JJ invited the whole Comic-Con audience to a concert after the Star Wars event, what he didn't realise was that his good friend Kevin Smith was on after him, so had inadvertently emptied a 6000 seater auditorium for him.
Kevin Smith retold the story a few days later on Babble-on and made a throwaway 'I will forgive JJ if he casts me as a fat stormtrooper' joke after. JJ heard Babble-on and called Kevin in to voice a stormtrooper. He recorded the now infamous 'traitor' line, but his other line was used during the Maz Kanata siege when a stormtrooper firsts spots the Resistance X-Wings arriving.
Kevin Smith retold the story a few days later on Babble-on and made a throwaway 'I will forgive JJ if he casts me as a fat stormtrooper' joke after. JJ heard Babble-on and called Kevin in to voice a stormtrooper. He recorded the now infamous 'traitor' line, but his other line was used during the Maz Kanata siege when a stormtrooper firsts spots the Resistance X-Wings arriving.
ukaskew said:
Lovely story on Hollywood Babble-on last week. As some may know JJ invited the whole Comic-Con audience to a concert after the Star Wars event, what he didn't realise was that his good friend Kevin Smith was on after him, so had inadvertently emptied a 6000 seater auditorium for him.
Kevin Smith retold the story a few days later on Babble-on and made a throwaway 'I will forgive JJ if he casts me as a fat stormtrooper' joke after. JJ heard Babble-on and called Kevin in to voice a stormtrooper. He recorded the now infamous 'traitor' line, but his other line was used during the Maz Kanata siege when a stormtrooper firsts spots the Resistance X-Wings arriving.
What an amazing piece of trivia.Kevin Smith retold the story a few days later on Babble-on and made a throwaway 'I will forgive JJ if he casts me as a fat stormtrooper' joke after. JJ heard Babble-on and called Kevin in to voice a stormtrooper. He recorded the now infamous 'traitor' line, but his other line was used during the Maz Kanata siege when a stormtrooper firsts spots the Resistance X-Wings arriving.
Did you know James Earl Jones did the voice of Darth Vader, even though he isn't actually inside the suit?
Edited by Mr Whippy on Thursday 11th February 17:20
richtea78 said:
Given your username I'm assuming you're a Kevin Smith fan?
Yes, grew up with his movies and met him a couple of times, lovely guy. Can't say I'm a fan of his movie work these days but his podcasts and talks are superb. Babble-on and Fatman on Batman get me through many a commute.
I know I'm late to the party (being single with no one to go with) but I finally saw it today.
Two things bothered me, kylo ren, wtf is up with his face, could they have gotten someone that at least looks like his parents, secondly leia, jesus she's had some drugs, I was quite sad seeing her.
Two things bothered me, kylo ren, wtf is up with his face, could they have gotten someone that at least looks like his parents, secondly leia, jesus she's had some drugs, I was quite sad seeing her.
But the Leia thing is life. My mother was quite a dish when I was born (not literally that day you understand) and 30 years later she was dead from various life-shortening experiences. So why wouldn't the allied rebellion (or whstever it was called) not have had that effect on Princess Leia Organa?
checkmate91 said:
But the Leia thing is life. My mother was quite a dish when I was born (not literally that day you understand) and 30 years later she was dead from various life-shortening experiences. So why wouldn't the allied rebellion (or whstever it was called) not have had that effect on Princess Leia Organa?
That is of course true but not really nice to be reminded of it in what is supposed to be a fantasy universe. Plus everyone knows the real reason why she is the way she is due to drugs so it's hard for me anyway to disconnect that from what I see on screen.To be honest I think it would have been far better for the story if they'd written it that Leia had died before this movie. It would be a far better explanation as to why Han is roaming around the galaxy again and why Ren might have gone off the rails plus we wouldn't have had to have our childhood image of Leia ruined by watching her struggle through this film.
Digital and DVD/BluRay release announced for the UK.
Digital - April 11th
Disc - April 18th
So far limited edition dark side / light side sleeves have been announced for the UK. The US has an annoying split between retailers of additional content or different packaging, hope we just get everything in one here.
Digital - April 11th
Disc - April 18th
So far limited edition dark side / light side sleeves have been announced for the UK. The US has an annoying split between retailers of additional content or different packaging, hope we just get everything in one here.
checkmate91 said:
But the Leia thing is life. My mother was quite a dish when I was born (not literally that day you understand) and 30 years later she was dead from various life-shortening experiences. So why wouldn't the allied rebellion (or whstever it was called) not have had that effect on Princess Leia Organa?
I must be one of the very few people who didn't have a problem with Leia in TFA.I feel sorry for actresses like Fisher, Ford looks old as feck, but attractive women aren't allowed to age at all :-/
the preorder on Sky just came through the other day so I watched this on Monday...
Maybe its just me, but although I enjoyed the film I was left feeling that it was very short and everything was crammed into it making certain plot threads very "jumpy"... ie jumping from one to another... I wish they had made it a far longer movie..
I havent checked the running time, but it really didnt seem anywhere near as long as the orignal Star Wars... but maybe thats just me getting old...
Maybe its just me, but although I enjoyed the film I was left feeling that it was very short and everything was crammed into it making certain plot threads very "jumpy"... ie jumping from one to another... I wish they had made it a far longer movie..
I havent checked the running time, but it really didnt seem anywhere near as long as the orignal Star Wars... but maybe thats just me getting old...
DuncanM said:
I must be one of the very few people who didn't have a problem with Leia in TFA.
I feel sorry for actresses like Fisher, Ford looks old as feck, but attractive women aren't allowed to age at all :-/
Exactly!I feel sorry for actresses like Fisher, Ford looks old as feck, but attractive women aren't allowed to age at all :-/
Although Ford has aged incredibly well, he was moving into 40 when he hit the bigtime and never really looked it.
hedgefinder said:
Maybe its just me, but although I enjoyed the film I was left feeling that it was very short and everything was crammed into it making certain plot threads very "jumpy"... ie jumping from one to another... I wish they had made it a far longer movie..
If they get round to releasing a special directors extended edition then this is at least one issue they could fix. I felt too that the pacing was too fast - I'd thought on first viewing it was just down to the excitement of a new 'proper' star wars movie, but having rewatched it this week then yeah it was just too squashed in.Either ditch the silly cgi monster sequence that didn't really add anything and replace it with some more explanation / padding to slow the pace down or just add some filler in. Either would have been better but hey ho, it's still enjoyable.
Also I'm just grateful that the vast majority of the original cast members were still around to be in the movie - it seems remarkably unfair to be picking on them for their looks. Perhaps Leia's looks were down to some carbon freezing incident in the preceeding 30 years? Could be Han wasn't fully thawed that night on Endor or something. Still got goosebumps at the ending, they so got that right.
For me, it wasn't Carrie Fishers looks, it was just that it seems she had pumped her face with so much botox/chemicals, she was almost expressionless! Nothing hardly moved on her face when talking, or trying to show emotion. That or she just wasn't really bothered playing the role. With that in mind, and as much as I loved her when I was 10 years old, I wished it was her that was killed off, and not Han.
chris watton said:
For me, it wasn't Carrie Fishers looks, it was just that it seems she had pumped her face with so much botox/chemicals, she was almost expressionless! Nothing hardly moved on her face when talking, or trying to show emotion. That or she just wasn't really bothered playing the role. With that in mind, and as much as I loved her when I was 10 years old, I wished it was her that was killed off, and not Han.
If you watch the extra documentary, she says she hadnt acted in 30 years and her first day on set she couldnt do anything and it was the worst day ever - JJ Abrams sort of agrees.She obviously got a bit better, but yes, its not the best performance. Just being rusty is all there probably a lot of it.
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