Star Wars 7

[FourWheelDrift]

Fan made Kenobi trailer - https://vimeo.com/178941014

[Mr_Yogi]

interloper said:

Me too, I had been waiting for this film for what felt like eons. I saw esb and star wars at the cinema in a double bill, aged 5! (I had nagged my parents daily after seeing the trailers for Empire)I was blown away by it (i was an odd 5 year old).

By the time I got to see Jedi I was a fair bit older, i felt a bit deflated by it, it tied everything up and was nicely made but absolutely no match for Esb.

Having see all three as adult, it's the same result ESB is just head and shoulders above the other two

That's really interesting as I too watched both A New Hope and ESB in a double bill at the cinema was I was about 5, and while I was mesmerised by it I remember being thoroughly disappointed by the ending, as they were just there on the frigate with Han and Chewy leaving them. That was no ending I thought. The wait for RotJ felt like a lifetime. However I as I was still only young I loved the ewoks. I also loved the Muppets and Fraggle Rock though

It was only later when the special editions were released (mid to late 90's?) that maybe fell out of love with RotJ, just a bit.

Now I think it's just "of it's time", however the once scene which always annoys me is the branding of the droid in Jabba's palace.

[Some Gump]

Motorsport_is_Expensive said:

Cracked.com is a hugely respected website.

It really isn't.

[Lucas Ayde]

Finally saw 'The Force Awakens' and I'm totally underwhelmed. It's like they mashed up some iconic scenes of the Original Trilogy and rebooted it with a younger, 'hipper' cast and current politically correct sensitivities more or less rehashing the original 'A New Hope' plotline.

Carrie Fisher and particularly Harrison Ford just didn't convince, they looked like they were just going through the motions. The girl who played the sassy, kick-ass independent heroine (Right On!) didn't appear to be able to act and the ex-Stormtrooper dude just came across as trying too hard to be 'with it'. Kylo Ren was just a disaster and in no way could you believe he was Han and Leia's kid.

Full of plotholes and contrivances too. So the Millenium Falcon was just hanging around that planet, unused for years yet ready to be stolen? And the girl could just fly it? And she suddenly could do lots of cool force tricks without any training whatsoever and previously having had no idea she had powers? All the Planet Deathstar stuff didn't really hold water either.

[DMN]

You mean like how farm boy Luke Skywalker could fly an X-Wing and destroy the Death Star?

Full of holes, full of holes.

[OwenK]

DMN said:

You mean like how farm boy Luke Skywalker could fly an X-Wing and destroy the Death Star?

Full of holes, full of holes.

In fairness, they made a point of the fact that Luke had been flying ships around on his home planet for most of his life shooting small targets...

I thought ep7 was pretty weak all in all BUT I've read some interesting theories that could retroactively spin the whole film in a new light and possibly turn into the "I am your father" revelation for a new generation...
Though for some reason I'm not holding my breath...

[Lucas Ayde]

DMN said:

You mean like how farm boy Luke Skywalker could fly an X-Wing and destroy the Death Star?

Full of holes, full of holes.

Pretty sure that Luke didn't have to do much fancy flying/dogfighting in the attack on the first Death Star - his main contribution was to manually launch the proton torpedo at the end, 'using the force' (because the targeting computer was out) and guided by Ben's spirit. And they'd made abig deal about him being a great shot a the start of the film plus hinted at him having special powers because of his father.

Yet apparently the girl could just pick a random ship (The Millenium Falcon as it happened) which had happened to be lying around grounded for years, take off in it and fly it solo, pulling off some amazing feats of precision flying. I guess that's because she is a capable, independent, strong, woman. Right On!

Also, for someone who had broken his conditioning because he decided that killing people was a bad thing, Finn had little problems immediately turning deadly fire on his former colleagues once he decided to go rogue and spring Captain Cheesy the Ace rebel pilot.

[generationx]

Lucas Ayde said:

... I guess that's because she is a capable, independent, strong, woman. Right On!

Good luck pointing out that this movie is really achingly 2016 PC - I had the gall to do this on another thread and, for merely pointing it out, was labelled a bigotted racist. LOL.

And I expect it´ll happen again now...

[P-Jay]

I'm not pointing fingers, but some posters seem to have forgotten that they're talking about a kids fantasy film about magic monks, laser swords and 7 foot Alsatian space pilots and moaning about it being unrealistic.

[Lucas Ayde]

P-Jay said:

I'm not pointing fingers, but some posters seem to have forgotten that they're talking about a kids fantasy film about magic monks, laser swords and 7 foot Alsatian space pilots and moaning about it being unrealistic.

Just because a film is clearly based in the realm of fantasy doesn't mean that it can get away with not being consistent or having gaping plotholes or contrivances.

For something so long awaited, massively hyped and apparently widely acclaimed (not to mention top-grossing at the box office) this film really didn't hang together all that well for me.

I guess there was a large element of people being relieved that it was not another 'Phantom Menace'. I remember trying really hard to like that one and struggling to stay engaged as it wore on, and leaving the cinema half-asleep when it finished. At least this one moved with a bit of zip, I much prefer the 'Star Trek' reboots though.

[Nick Grant]

Lucas Ayde said:

Finally saw 'The Force Awakens'

And the girl could just fly it? And she suddenly could do lots of cool force tricks without any training whatsoever and previously having had no idea she had powers?

The force awoke

[Halb]

Lucas Ayde said:

Just because a film is clearly based in the realm of fantasy doesn't mean that it can get away with not being consistent or having gaping plotholes or contrivances.

Exactly. It gets so fking tiring whenever that line of non-argument is touched upon. FFS films work or fail on their structure, it works or it doesn't, the content is for ppl who like that genre, it has to make sense for long term success, utterly regardless of whether it's genres which are deemed as lesser ones in the eyes of some. Roal Dahl wrote children's books, he is one of the best authors we had, a storyteller extraordinaire.
Star Wars is one of the best films out there, and it is that genre.

[Sway]

OwenK said:

DMN said:

You mean like how farm boy Luke Skywalker could fly an X-Wing and destroy the Death Star?

Full of holes, full of holes.

In fairness, they made a point of the fact that Luke had been flying ships around on his home planet for most of his life shooting small targets...

I thought ep7 was pretty weak all in all BUT I've read some interesting theories that could retroactively spin the whole film in a new light and possibly turn into the "I am your father" revelation for a new generation...
Though for some reason I'm not holding my breath...

I've seen two - one I think is probably fairly likely, one that's far cleverer and awesome but I very much doubt will be the case.

If the (imo) more likely and recent 'spoiler theory' is true, I really don't think it'll have that much impact with audiences - either the new generation or the existing fans...

[GravelBen]

Sway said:

I've seen two - one I think is probably fairly likely, one that's far cleverer and awesome but I very much doubt will be the case.

If the (imo) more likely and recent 'spoiler theory' is true, I really don't think it'll have that much impact with audiences - either the new generation or the existing fans...

Darth Jar-Jar?

[g3org3y]

Lucas Ayde said:

Finally saw 'The Force Awakens' and I'm totally underwhelmed. It's like they mashed up some iconic scenes of the Original Trilogy and rebooted it with a younger, 'hipper' cast and current politically correct sensitivities more or less rehashing the original 'A New Hope' plotline.

Agreed.

Halb said:

Lucas Ayde said:

Just because a film is clearly based in the realm of fantasy doesn't mean that it can get away with not being consistent or having gaping plotholes or contrivances.

Exactly. It gets so fking tiring whenever that line of non-argument is touched upon. FFS films work or fail on their structure, it works or it doesn't, the content is for ppl who like that genre, it has to make sense for long term success, utterly regardless of whether it's genres which are deemed as lesser ones in the eyes of some. Roal Dahl wrote children's books, he is one of the best authors we had, a storyteller extraordinaire.
Star Wars is one of the best films out there, and it is that genre.

Agreed.

OwenK said:

I thought ep7 was pretty weak all in all BUT I've read some interesting theories that could retroactively spin the whole film in a new light and possibly turn into the "I am your father" revelation for a new generation...
Though for some reason I'm not holding my breath...

I shouldn't have to spend hours on the internet after watching the film to come up with theories so the bloody thing can make sense.

Same deal with Prometheus (which was also st).

[greygoose]

GravelBen said:

Sway said:

I've seen two - one I think is probably fairly likely, one that's far cleverer and awesome but I very much doubt will be the case.

If the (imo) more likely and recent 'spoiler theory' is true, I really don't think it'll have that much impact with audiences - either the new generation or the existing fans...

Darth Jar-Jar?