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MiniMan64 said:
Amazing how confused some people have become over this - some of the terminally dumb almost believed it.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/shortcuts/2014/jul...
richtea78 said:
Looks like the local travelling community have beaten JJ to the location 
Sharpen your lightsaber sir?
Star Wars Episode 7 plot details suffer unconfirmed leak
The site Badass Digest posts what it claims is a partial synopsis of the plot for the next instalment in the franchise, directed by JJ Abrams
Spoiler alert: although these details remain unconfirmed, those eager to know as little as possible about Episode VII may wish to avoid reading this article
A US film blog has posted what it claims are essential plot details from the upcoming new Star Wars film, Episode VII.
Badass Digest claims JJ Abrams' movie focuses on the hunt for Luke Skywalker after an opening scene in which the ageing Jedi Knight's severed hand, complete with lightsaber, tumbles through space and is found on a desert planet by two young adventurers. The pair, played by Britain's Daisy Ridley and John Boyega, recognise the weapon as a Jedi weapon and set out to return it to its rightful owner.
According to the site: "Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millennium Falcon anymore … Han and Chewie recognise the lightsaber as Luke's, and they say they haven't seen their friend in thirty years, since the events of Return of the Jedi.
"So begins a quest to find the missing Jedi Master. Meanwhile, on an ice planet, nefarious forces are building a super weapon, one capable of destroying not planets but entire solar systems … "
According to Badass Digest, the narrative sweep of Episode VII intentionally echoes 1977's Star Wars, with the quest for Skywalker replacing the original protagonist's hunt for Obi Wan Kenobi. Boyega, whose character is described as someone trying to change his path is life, is described as "owning" the new instalment.
"Instead of R2 coming to Tatooine it's a hand falling from the sky, but the basic sweep of the story is similar, and intentionally so," says the site. "But things that seem familiar may not be as familiar as you think - don't assume that every ice or desert planet in the galaxy has already been visited, if you know what I'm saying."
Disney has so far refused to confirm or deny the rumoured plot details, which remain unconfirmed.
Badass Digest's report would appear to contradict the widely held assumption that Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, returning to the classic roles of Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Han Solo from the original trilogy which hit cinemas between 1977 and 1983, will be the obvious leads in Episode VII. Ridley and Boyega are part of a swathe of actors – also including Girls' Adam Driver and Ingmar Bergman regular Max von Sydow – who were confirmed by studio Disney in May.
Abrams recently put production for the film on a two-week hiatus to allow Ford to recover from a broken leg sustained on set. The Star Trek film-maker has been shooting at Pinewood Studios in London and the deserts of Abu Dhabi. There have also been reports that a crew visited Puzzlewood in the Forest of Dean, where TV shows such as Merlin, Dr Who and Atlantis have been filmed.
Episode VII remains on course for a December 2015 release date.
The site Badass Digest posts what it claims is a partial synopsis of the plot for the next instalment in the franchise, directed by JJ Abrams
Spoiler alert: although these details remain unconfirmed, those eager to know as little as possible about Episode VII may wish to avoid reading this article
A US film blog has posted what it claims are essential plot details from the upcoming new Star Wars film, Episode VII.
Badass Digest claims JJ Abrams' movie focuses on the hunt for Luke Skywalker after an opening scene in which the ageing Jedi Knight's severed hand, complete with lightsaber, tumbles through space and is found on a desert planet by two young adventurers. The pair, played by Britain's Daisy Ridley and John Boyega, recognise the weapon as a Jedi weapon and set out to return it to its rightful owner.
According to the site: "Their quest takes them off world, and they meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca, who aren't flying around in the Millennium Falcon anymore … Han and Chewie recognise the lightsaber as Luke's, and they say they haven't seen their friend in thirty years, since the events of Return of the Jedi.
"So begins a quest to find the missing Jedi Master. Meanwhile, on an ice planet, nefarious forces are building a super weapon, one capable of destroying not planets but entire solar systems … "
According to Badass Digest, the narrative sweep of Episode VII intentionally echoes 1977's Star Wars, with the quest for Skywalker replacing the original protagonist's hunt for Obi Wan Kenobi. Boyega, whose character is described as someone trying to change his path is life, is described as "owning" the new instalment.
"Instead of R2 coming to Tatooine it's a hand falling from the sky, but the basic sweep of the story is similar, and intentionally so," says the site. "But things that seem familiar may not be as familiar as you think - don't assume that every ice or desert planet in the galaxy has already been visited, if you know what I'm saying."
Disney has so far refused to confirm or deny the rumoured plot details, which remain unconfirmed.
Badass Digest's report would appear to contradict the widely held assumption that Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, returning to the classic roles of Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Han Solo from the original trilogy which hit cinemas between 1977 and 1983, will be the obvious leads in Episode VII. Ridley and Boyega are part of a swathe of actors – also including Girls' Adam Driver and Ingmar Bergman regular Max von Sydow – who were confirmed by studio Disney in May.
Abrams recently put production for the film on a two-week hiatus to allow Ford to recover from a broken leg sustained on set. The Star Trek film-maker has been shooting at Pinewood Studios in London and the deserts of Abu Dhabi. There have also been reports that a crew visited Puzzlewood in the Forest of Dean, where TV shows such as Merlin, Dr Who and Atlantis have been filmed.
Episode VII remains on course for a December 2015 release date.
As The Register points out, if those plot details are true then they defy common sense and, indeed, the laws of physics.
JonRB said:
As The Register points out, if those plot details are true then they defy common sense and, indeed, the laws of physics.
Maybe George Lucas wrote those bits then.
That sounds pretty good to me, I always thought watching a 72 year old Han Solo and a (very fat, it has to be said) 62 year old Luke Skywalker duke it out with some new Sith Lord or other might be a bit of a strain.
As for "the laws of physics" and all that - we accept faster than light travel as a given, thousands of planets with the same basic atmosphere, a space craft that needs to be hit to work that's however completely airtight and not to mention all the s
t the Jedi's can do happily - but a hand dropping from orbit and not burning up on re-entry - oh no, that's a bridge too far.
As for "the laws of physics" and all that - we accept faster than light travel as a given, thousands of planets with the same basic atmosphere, a space craft that needs to be hit to work that's however completely airtight and not to mention all the s
t the Jedi's can do happily - but a hand dropping from orbit and not burning up on re-entry - oh no, that's a bridge too far. Edited by P-Jay on Tuesday 22 July 09:27
P-Jay said:
That sounds pretty good to me, I always thought watching a 72 year old Han Solo and a (very fat, it has to be said) 62 year old Luke Skywalker duke it out with some new Sith Lord or other might be a bit of a strain.
I don't think that was ever on the cards. I always assumed that Han & Leia would fulfil the Owen & Beru role and Luke the Obi Wan role. ie. Be part of the story but let the younger generation go gallivanting off for the action. Harrison Ford has already proved he's past it for action in Indy 4. P-Jay said:
As for "the laws of physics" and all that - we accept faster than light travel as a given, thousands of planets with the same basic atmosphere, a space craft that needs to be hit to work that's however completely airtight and not to mention all the st the Jedi's can do happily - but a hand dropping from orbit and not burning up on re-entry - oh no, that's a bridge too far.
We've had this discussion so many times and yet people still don't get it. Good Sci-Fi establishes a framework and asks you to will a suspension of disbelief for it. Thereafter it stays consistent to its framework and also to the laws of physics. For example, in Superman we are asked to will a suspension of disbelief that he can fly and is super-strong. However, it's perfectly valid as a fan to then point out that Superman picking an aircraft up by its wingtip is stupid because no matter how strong you are, the wingtip would just snap off. In the Matrix we were asked to believe that the laws of physics could be bent or even broken, so that was ok. t the Jedi's can do happily - but a hand dropping from orbit and not burning up on re-entry - oh no, that's a bridge too far. In the case of the Star Wars leaked plot (which is rather poor form for you not putting in spoiler tags), the falling from space and not burning up isn't half of it. How did it get up there in the first place, since it was cut off on the planet Bespin and would have fallen down, not up?
Edited by JonRB on Monday 21st July 17:10
JonRB said:
As The Register points out, if those plot details are true then they defy common sense and, indeed, the laws of physics.
Are you new to the Star Wars franchise? y2blade said:
Are you new to the Star Wars franchise?
Patronising much? Regardless of physics it all sounds a little inconsistent with the Star Wars universe we know as JonRB says.However i do take issue with Star Wars being labelled sci-fi. Although the SPAAAAAAACE! theme usually indicates sci-fi its actually much closer to fantasy.
Wizards, knights, princesses, magic powers, strongholds, a hero seeking his true origin etc etc
But again, the leaked plot idea doesn't even sound like something we expect from the fantasy universe we know.
y2blade said:
Are you new to the Star Wars franchise?
No. I've followed it since the beginning. I went to see the very first Star Wars film when it was released in the UK in early 1978 (IMDb lists the UK release as being 27-Dec-1977 but I have a strong memory of it being 1978 so perhaps it was in January. It was certainly during the film's initial release). The whole family went to see it and I recall even my mum liked it and said that it was a 'modern fairy tale'. I've seen every one at the cinema since. And read a lot of the Expanded Universe books too.darth_pies said:
However i do take issue with Star Wars being labelled sci-fi. Although the SPAAAAAAACE! theme usually indicates sci-fi its actually much closer to fantasy.
Wizards, knights, princesses, magic powers, strongholds, a hero seeking his true origin etc etc
Fair point, especially given the above. Perhaps "Space Fantasy" then, although there are also Sci-Fi elements. But my point about self-consistency still stands. Wizards, knights, princesses, magic powers, strongholds, a hero seeking his true origin etc etc
Edited by JonRB on Tuesday 22 July 09:28
KareemK said:
JonRB said:
Fair point, especially given the above. Perhaps "Space Fantasy" then, although there are also Sci-Fi elements. But my point about self-consistency still stands.
or even Fantasy-Fiction, we can call it Fani for short, I like a good Fani film 
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