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JonRB said:
stephen300o said:
There is a clue hidden in the thread title. If one is not interested in Star Wars. It is clearly labeled to avoid it.
Oh purleease. There isn't the requirement to be a "gushing fool" to contribute to this thread. Dissent and discussion is allowed. Maybe we need a sub-thread for "starrey eyed fan adulation, no negativity allowed"? 
Sure someone could point out that it does not look good or they don't like the actors cast etc, but saying they are not interested in Star Wars continuing is daft in such a thread.
I thought it showed promise, I've gone from somewhat sceptical to quietly optimistic but I am trying like hell to temper the excitement factor. After all we've been here before, the PM trailer made it look bloody awesome and look how that turned out.
I'm also not getting the camera angle argument. I can understand people complaining about the too shiny CGI in the prequels but complaining about impossible camera angles?? Surely the whole point of CGI is to make the impossible look possible?
I'm also not getting the camera angle argument. I can understand people complaining about the too shiny CGI in the prequels but complaining about impossible camera angles?? Surely the whole point of CGI is to make the impossible look possible?
stephen300o said:
Well if one is not interested in the continuation of the Star Wars franchise, why would one wish to comment?
Sure someone could point out that it does not look good or they don't like the actors cast etc, but saying they are not interested in Star Wars continuing is daft in such a thread.
Oh for sure. I wasn't saying otherwise. Apologies if I was misunderstood. Sure someone could point out that it does not look good or they don't like the actors cast etc, but saying they are not interested in Star Wars continuing is daft in such a thread.
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JonRB said:
Guvernator said:
I thought it showed promise, I've gone from somewhat sceptical to quietly optimistic but I am trying like hell to temper the excitement factor.
Yeah, I am totally with you. I am trying so hard not to be the b
h that I was for Phantom Menace. I hope to Christ they get it right and don't do another Prometheus on us....
SWoll said:
Also, the camera angle complaint makes no sense to me. Why would you care about whether those shots could be caught by a cameraman or not? I want to be immersed in the action by the best view possible rather than being limited to where a camera can go.
Consider it like this: when you see a bloke larking about on top of a massive building that's quite obviously CGI, it doesn't convey much sense of danger but when you see Jackie Chan doing it, it's awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticE-Eg7I8o
Another example is in Fast and Furious, when you see the camera going in through the engine and coming out the exhaust. Nobody in the audience thinks they're seeing reality, just a bit of animation.
For me, the camera isn't an actor and shouldn't have a part to play beyond presenting the scene. Once it becomes part of the scene, I find it distracting.
I should add that I love CG and I wanted to work in visual effects when I was a kid (er.. which is why I probably over-think a lot of this stuff
).When it's used creatively it can be absolutely fantastic (Black Swan springs to mind as a beautiful example of how to do CG properly).
However, when it's deployed because it seems the producers just aren't very imaginative, I'm less than willing to go with them on it.
Lego trailer. Made in a very short time after the release.
Lego Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens T…: http://youtu.be/qpfWrh1scZU
I want to see a proper Lego Star Wars movie now
Lego Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens T…: http://youtu.be/qpfWrh1scZU
I want to see a proper Lego Star Wars movie now
ajprice said:
Lego trailer. Made in a very short time after the release.
Lego Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens T…: http://youtu.be/qpfWrh1scZU
I want to see a proper Lego Star Wars movie now
That is fekin' brilliant Lego Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens T…: http://youtu.be/qpfWrh1scZU
I want to see a proper Lego Star Wars movie now
JonRB said:
Disastrous said:
Don't be an arse. I'm a huge fan of Star Wars. But I like good films. So I won't just accept any old st that's squeezed out the collective bottom of the production team and gets a light sabre poked into it like a cocktail stick.
Quite. Those of us who were stung by Phantom Menace are totally with you here. I certainly am. t that's squeezed out the collective bottom of the production team and gets a light sabre poked into it like a cocktail stick.Disastrous said:
Not sure if it's been mentioned but already that trailer loses me by having CG provide 'camera angles' that a camera couldn't get. I HATE that.
Yes, I totally agree. Films like this are all about "willing a suspension of disbelief". Camera angles like that strain the disbelief and they shouldn't. Zod said:
That is utter nonsense. If you are suspending disbelief, then by definition, you are not even thinking about a camera.
Rubbish. Willing a suspension of disbelief is an active thing - an act of will by its very definition. So if something knocks that or distracts from it, then the suspension can be destroyed. JonRB said:
Zod said:
That is utter nonsense. If you are suspending disbelief, then by definition, you are not even thinking about a camera.
Rubbish. Willing a suspension of disbelief is an active thing - an act of will by its very definition. So if something knocks that or distracts from it, then the suspension can be destroyed. Regarding ships flying through cameras etc...
http://youtu.be/Bv2Mx5T5r7M?t=1m6s
http://youtu.be/Bv2Mx5T5r7M?t=1m6s
Edited by MarkRSi on Saturday 29th November 22:05
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