Good films I watched this weekend (Vol 2)

Good films I watched this weekend (Vol 2)

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JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Watchman said:
JustinP1 said:
I've not watched the film but am 3/4 of the way through his autobiography which the film is obviously based upon.

Before reading the book I read a lot of the arguments surrounding the fact that certain more racist members of society will simply see him as some kind of hero figure.

In his own words, I therefore expected some more racism than there actually was. The worst is probably when he calls the enemy 'savages' and gives good reason for that in explaining some of their tactics like blowing up kids etc. I don't see what the 'hype' is about.

Yes, he may not be the type to discuss existentialism, but from his words I see someone down to earth, honourable, and highly patriotic.
I think that may be the problem - those are his words. No biopic will manage to capture a totally balanced impression of the character but there are some strong negative opinions "out there". I have no idea whether they are fair opinions or not but because they have been aired, you can't just ignore them and present a white-hatted Lone Ranger type without it looking unbalanced.
Yes, exactly.

The quotes of his that have been taken that are constantly repeated are:

1) The 'savages' reference, but which is put into context.

2) His recollection of when he was under investigation for shooting someone with an AK47 whose wife claimed he was holding a Koran. In the investigation, his angry response to being questioned was 'I don't shoot men holding the Koran, I'd like to, but I don't'.

3) Then in a later TV interview, he was asked about killing so many people, and he responded explaining along the lines of the numbers don't count, as for each killing of an enemy, he had saved Americans lives each time. To get though, he sees his target as the 'enemy' and not humans.

However, when an anti-war activist puts these three separate quotes together, you get:

"He called Iraqis 'savages', he openly stated he'd like to shoot Muslims holding the Koran, and doesn't think of them as humans.

That obviously puts a very different negative spin from picking out of context a few words from a tens of thousands and putting them back together in a new context.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Watchman said:
American Sniper

I must confess to being a bit confused by this film. Ignoring that it was a biopic and just treating it as a "story" then it was good, shows the confusion of emotions inherent in people waging war. The film was shot expertly (as you'd expect from Mr Eastwood) and gave the message that war is horrible but sometimes necessary and is justifiable.

I'm just not sure that message is genuine though. I've never been hugely pro war or anti, mostly because whenever I make my mind up one way or another, some new ambiguity lands forcing me to reevaluate. And having read up about Chris Kyle, this film seems just as confused about its message. Bradley Cooper did the script justice, no doubt, but that script seems to have take so much licence with who the real CK was that it's hard to view the film as any more than another American propaganda piece. And I don't like that because the Middle East seems to have more than its fair share of truly horrible people so why can't we find stories of people who are helping to fight them that don't require us to gloss over or completely ignore the less savoury aspects of their personalities which, in doing so, opens the story, its makers, and one whole "side" up for criticism?

Hugely engaging film but you just can't watch it on face value. So when you read around the subject, it feels slightly distasteful.

5/10
Watched this last night, it's an upsetting film, illustrates like so many other modern portrayals just how grim and dehumanising war is, however it didn't move me as I struggled to connect to Mr. Cooper, the film didn't get inside his head. That said it is very good and definitely worth a watch.

7/10



tobinen

9,235 posts

146 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Pantani - Accidental Death of a Cyclist. You don't have to be a PH-PPer to watch this, I think. Some insight leading up to his untimely end and background from commentators and other riders. I don't profess to be in the dark about road cycling (nor am I an expert) but I learned new things. I think general sports fans might like it too. 7.5/10

JensenA

5,671 posts

231 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Hidalgo - a boring afternoon, so flicking through the channels I came across this. I'm glad I did, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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My ex recommended me something called Magic in the Moonlight lately as opposed to Budapest Hotel I was recommending to her. I wasn't going to follow her advice, but then she mentioned Emma Stone was in it.Turned out not bad, but not very bright either. Woody Allen is the director, which doesn't do anything for me, personally. And I hate Colin Firth. Overall, boring in places, but time well spent. 6/10

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Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Just forked out £5.49(!) for The Equalizer on Sky On Demand on the strength of favourable comments in this thread. Verdict to follow...

Brother D

3,727 posts

177 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Just watched Predestination. I've give it a rating 6/10, but I kind of knew what the outcome was going to be.




JonRB

74,602 posts

273 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Brother D said:
Just watched Predestination. I've give it a rating 6/10, but I kind of knew what the outcome was going to be.
What you did there... I see it. smile

Klippie

3,165 posts

146 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Finally got around to watching Guardians Of the Galaxy last night...Christ it was good.

Klippie

3,165 posts

146 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Finally got around to watching Guardians Of the Galaxy last night...Christ it was good.

JonRB

74,602 posts

273 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Klippie said:
Finally got around to watching Guardians Of the Galaxy last night...Christ it was good.
Yes, it's brilliant isn't it. By far my favourite Marvel film, even though I love Iron Man.

CountZero23

1,288 posts

179 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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'71 - Fantastic film about a soldier left behind during the troubles in Northern Ireland.

9/10

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/71_2015/

North3rn Monk3y

234 posts

142 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Got round to watching Lone Survivor. Bloody excellent. Edge of seat and pretty moving (takes a lot to get me properly into a film).

TREMAiNE

3,918 posts

150 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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North3rn Monk3y said:
Edge of seat
100% Agree

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Wild Card - Jason Statham doing what he does best yet again! Still enjoyable if you like his films (which I do) 7/10

Kill The Messenger - Based on the true story of Gary Webb a reporter for a small newspaper who uncovers the conspiracy of the C.I.A. Importing drugs to fund the war in Nicaragua. Very good indeed 8.5/10

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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ash73 said:
I thought it was rubbish, and I'm a big Denzel fan.
It was OK. Never boring and good fight choreography, but Denzel was virtually invincible. Some mild peril would have been nice.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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John Wick. Keanu Segal kills everyone.6.5/10.

Nervasport

227 posts

136 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Thor: The dark world

Absolutely loved it! Very dark in places and when algrim became kurse I literally st myself, it was something unexpected and all in all a brilliant film

TREMAiNE

3,918 posts

150 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Kingsman: The Secret Service

"A veteran secret agent takes a young upstart under his wing."

A good, fun brain-off film. I really enjoyed myself and it was a nice break from all of the Oscar nominations I've been watching recently.


8/10

Madness60

571 posts

185 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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Kingsman

Really enjoyed this, great fun, odd bit of poor CGI but recommended! Like the way the producers have resisted the pressure to get a 12 rating by reducing the violence and swearing! Its a decent 15, violent and sweary throughout and all the better for that!
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