Good films I watched this weekend (Vol 2)
Discussion
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
Love that film - I sometimes wonder if our large hi-def TV's do the older classics no favours. I remember the first time I watched Terminator in early 1985 on our 'whopping' 24" CRT TV in video form, that had probably already been rented out dozens of times before I had it, not so picture-perfect..What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
chris watton said:
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
Love that film - I sometimes wonder if our large hi-def TV's do the older classics no favours. I remember the first time I watched Terminator in early 1985 on our 'whopping' 24" CRT TV in video form, that had probably already been rented out dozens of times before I had it, not so picture-perfect..What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
The Terminator is to T2 as Alien is to Aliens. What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
qube_TA said:
ash73 said:
Interstellar - I enjoyed it, for the most part. Slow pace (2 hrs 50 min!) means it drags in places, tbh space travel can be a bit boring, but it does add to the atmosphere. Just about the right mix of space semi-realism and storytelling drama for me; love the black hole concept, beautiful visuals, thought provoking plot, cool robots, and Anne Hathaway is lovely. Cooper's lack of training and the tesseract bookcase jarred slightly, and I know what signal I would be sending if I was one of the Lazarus missions; but I'll enjoy watching it again.
Contact is still my favourite space sci-fi, this didn't quite grab me in the same way.
I thought this missed totally, no one behaved in a way that was convincing. Did look pretty though.Contact is still my favourite space sci-fi, this didn't quite grab me in the same way.
Agreed that Contact is much better.
Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
dave_s13 said:
The sound mix on this was utter crap. You can barely hear Mahogany mumble his lines than BOOOM, somthing big happens and the score ramps up to a level 10x that of the dialogue. I had to keep turning the volume up/down to be able to hear what was being said and then prevent ear drum perforation for the loud bits.
Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
Very strange for them to release it like that, although Nolan does have previous as TDKR had the same issue just to a lesser degree.
Like you say, had it's moments but overall was disappointing. I still respect him for trying something a bit different though.
dave_s13 said:
The sound mix on this was utter crap. You can barely hear Mahogany mumble his lines than BOOOM, somthing big happens and the score ramps up to a level 10x that of the dialogue. I had to keep turning the volume up/down to be able to hear what was being said and then prevent ear drum perforation for the loud bits.
Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
The sound mix was supposed to be like that, according to Nolan.Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
I can see the artistic reason why, and I can also see why the initial reaction is that you can't hear what he's saying. It's just the default norm of film being played with. One usually expects that the pecking order is dialogue, diagetic sound (effects and such) then score.
If the dialogue is not the crux of the scene, there's no reason why it should be loudest, apart from maintaining the expected norm.
SWoll said:
Very strange for them to release it like that, although Nolan does have previous as TDKR had the same issue just to a lesser degree.
The issue with that was people not understanding Bane due to his 'evil superhero' voice, the fact it was physically muffled to a certain extent by the fact they had to make it sound like it was behind a mask, but most of all because you couldn't see his lips moving so couldn't use that information to decode what he was saying.I think that issue was entirely unintentional. On the showing a saw after it was out a couple of weeks it seemed like the Bane dialogue was turned up as it was slightly louder than the rest to compensate.
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
One of my favourite films, it's a simple premise of a machine programmed to perform a task that it will try to complete no matter what with little consideration for its own well being. It's shot at, hit, blown up, smashed and still finds an increasingly desperate way to continue it's task.What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
One of the aspects I didn't like so much with the sequel was that the T1000 never seems to suffer, sure it takes a beating but always just resets to full health.
I prefer the use of pre-CGI stop frame miniature animation, I think that despite looking a bit clunky it's more 'real'. CGI whilst technically impressive seems to date very quickly as new software revisions are released.
i like the Terminator but have issues with T2. It was amazing when it came out but after watching it a while ago it is just soooo slow, poorly acted and with terrible dialogue. If i watch it again i fast forward through most of it.
Aliens on the other hand is a far superior film to the original in my opinion. Like predator, i always tend to watch it if its on SKY
Aliens on the other hand is a far superior film to the original in my opinion. Like predator, i always tend to watch it if its on SKY
Alex said:
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
The Terminator is to T2 as Alien is to Aliens. What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
JustinP1 said:
dave_s13 said:
The sound mix on this was utter crap. You can barely hear Mahogany mumble his lines than BOOOM, somthing big happens and the score ramps up to a level 10x that of the dialogue. I had to keep turning the volume up/down to be able to hear what was being said and then prevent ear drum perforation for the loud bits.
Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
The sound mix was supposed to be like that, according to Nolan.Worth watching though, had it's moments - 6/10
I can see the artistic reason why, and I can also see why the initial reaction is that you can't hear what he's saying. It's just the default norm of film being played with. One usually expects that the pecking order is dialogue, diagetic sound (effects and such) then score.
If the dialogue is not the crux of the scene, there's no reason why it should be loudest, apart from maintaining the expected norm.
k am I supposed to keep up! 
To be fair, your reasoning is sound, I suppose, in this particular film though you absolutely needed to hear what the f
k was being said as it's a fairly complex plot given the dabble with spacetime and all that offsetting of watches n that. I reckon the sound dude just forgot to turn his nob up to eleven and this is a poor excuse.
dave_s13 said:
But if I'm playing bubble mania whilst the film's on how the fk am I supposed to keep up!
To be fair, your reasoning is sound, I suppose, in this particular film though you absolutely needed to hear what the fk was being said as it's a fairly complex plot given the dabble with spacetime and all that offsetting of watches n that.
I reckon the sound dude just forgot to turn his nob up to eleven and this is a poor excuse.
I noticed that Mahogany (and others, but mostly Mahogany) was quiet in places the first time I watched it. k am I supposed to keep up! To be fair, your reasoning is sound, I suppose, in this particular film though you absolutely needed to hear what the f
k was being said as it's a fairly complex plot given the dabble with spacetime and all that offsetting of watches n that. I reckon the sound dude just forgot to turn his nob up to eleven and this is a poor excuse.
However, it wasn't plot points that were mixed down. I actually noticed when it happened, the only times the dialogue was mixed low was in a situation of panic where there was no actual content lost by not hearing them over the sound effects and score. The other time was the final repetition of that blessed poem, which we'd heard twice already anyway, and that took a background to a rocket taking off.
JustinP1 said:
The issue with that was people not understanding Bane due to his 'evil superhero' voice, the fact it was physically muffled to a certain extent by the fact they had to make it sound like it was behind a mask, but most of all because you couldn't see his lips moving so couldn't use that information to decode what he was saying.
I think that issue was entirely unintentional. On the showing a saw after it was out a couple of weeks it seemed like the Bane dialogue was turned up as it was slightly louder than the rest to compensate.
He's such a great rapper as wel.I think that issue was entirely unintentional. On the showing a saw after it was out a couple of weeks it seemed like the Bane dialogue was turned up as it was slightly louder than the rest to compensate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLFAXvFYhsE
qube_TA said:
viggyp said:
Watched The Terminator again. I just never get bored of it.
What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
One of my favourite films, it's a simple premise of a machine programmed to perform a task that it will try to complete no matter what with little consideration for its own well being. It's shot at, hit, blown up, smashed and still finds an increasingly desperate way to continue it's task.What a great, dark and atmospheric film. Some of the effects look bad but it is an oldie now. To me It's a 10/10 sci fi film and arguably better than It's overblown and corny sequel (despite I do think T2 is also a top film).
One of the aspects I didn't like so much with the sequel was that the T1000 never seems to suffer, sure it takes a beating but always just resets to full health.
I prefer the use of pre-CGI stop frame miniature animation, I think that despite looking a bit clunky it's more 'real'. CGI whilst technically impressive seems to date very quickly as new software revisions are released.
I remember when T2 came out, I thought it was so much better than the first but when watching them in order it is clear (to me) how much better T1 is. T2 is basically the same story except that the T800 has been reprogrammed to help JC and that he is now a kid. Also, and I know I'll get blasted for this but having a liquid metal cyborg is just seriously OTT for me regardless of how OTT the original film one was!
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