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Got a bit fanciful towards the end, but best episodes for YEARS - let the characters and the scenarios carry everything, rather than the extraneous soap-level b
ks from recent serieses.
Good turn from John Hannah, gave it some gravitas without spilling over into melodrama or caricature. Right miserable bugger though.
ks from recent serieses.Good turn from John Hannah, gave it some gravitas without spilling over into melodrama or caricature. Right miserable bugger though.
I enjoyed it, but then I usually do.
But how did John Hannah get into the autopsy suite? They normally make a point of showing them having to buzz someone into the place through those glass doors, yet he seemed to have managed to get past them without any trouble. And a thousand cops arrive at the house after it's been broken into, but don't have a look around the garden where the guy is still hiding.
But how did John Hannah get into the autopsy suite? They normally make a point of showing them having to buzz someone into the place through those glass doors, yet he seemed to have managed to get past them without any trouble. And a thousand cops arrive at the house after it's been broken into, but don't have a look around the garden where the guy is still hiding.
droopsnoot said:
I enjoyed it, but then I usually do.
But how did John Hannah get into the autopsy suite? They normally make a point of showing them having to buzz someone into the place through those glass doors, yet he seemed to have managed to get past them without any trouble. And a thousand cops arrive at the house after it's been broken into, but don't have a look around the garden where the guy is still hiding.
One of my big issues with SW. It has happened several times in other episodes where for some reason individuals seem to be able to get unauthorised access to what should be/has to be a high security area to avoid any cross contamination. Just crazy the writers still let this happen But how did John Hannah get into the autopsy suite? They normally make a point of showing them having to buzz someone into the place through those glass doors, yet he seemed to have managed to get past them without any trouble. And a thousand cops arrive at the house after it's been broken into, but don't have a look around the garden where the guy is still hiding.
But still a big improvement over previous series and EF's new hairstyle...nice!
JurassicGTS said:
One of my big issues with SW. It has happened several times in other episodes where for some reason individuals seem to be able to get unauthorised access to what should be/has to be a high security area to avoid any cross contamination. Just crazy the writers still let this happen
It's a common thing - I recently finished watching "24", and despite being the counter-terrorist unit, their security is atrocious, and it remains atrocious even into the final series, long after they've had the place rebuilt for the n-th time. I'm not sure what it really added in Silent Witness, other than to hammer home that John Hannah's character was becoming more forgetful. I did wonder if it was working up to a get-out if he had turned out to have killed his wife he might argue that his DNA or whatever was there because he went into the autopsy room by mistake, but it didn't go that way.Aaaand it’s back to st again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.
t again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.ScotHill said:
Aaaand it’s back to st again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.
Agree, this weeks episode was shy*e.t again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.JurassicGTS said:
ScotHill said:
Aaaand it’s back to st again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.
Agree, this weeks episode was shy*e.t again. Terrible, terrible writing, from the characters to their actions to the preachy voice-of-the-writer stuff that came through every two minutes. Pointless unrelated subplot about the electrician guy. And John Thomson chewing his own face off every time he was on screen trying desperately not to re-enact Chester Drawers from the Fast Show. I may finally have given up on the series now, it was actually making me angry how bad it was.Well i thought that was a great episode and I'll tell you why, as it don't think it was intended.
The Professor character was possibly the greatest writing ever in SW. The idea was to make him some ranting angry dinosaur shouting at the moon, yet to my ears he was saying some pretty high level stuff and stuff i was nodding along to!
He made a fantastic speech and at the end a girl in his lecture turns to another and says "what a load of bks".
That is the point where we the audience are meant to agree with her and sit there in virtuous bliss...
What the writer had him say was about biologically 2 genders male and female, fact, and everything else is construct, true.
So inadvertently a woke writer had found some extremely poignant words to make this character seems like some vile human but he spoke utter sense about hive minds and echo chambers....
And the final slice is that he topped himself as he in his mind had created the monsters that were the killers!
So message being you may have these views but its your fault if people act on them in a terrible way its all your fault just say the right things and pretend stuff and agree with the woke....
I'd quite like the transcripts from the Professor as it was so well written.
Reminded me a bit of Silence of the Lambs, i mean was Hannibal meant to be the hero and the most interesting thing in it?
Or is it that writer's write better for troubling character's.
I don't know, but yes I enjoyed it. And also reminded me how SW of all places was the first mainstream outlet to draw attention to Muslim gangs abusing young girls up North. Still took years after for people to see it was based on truth.
Same way this episode was highlighting how people can lose jobs and titles for not following the woke pretend mob and speaking truth and facts.... although i don't think the writer intended him to be an anti hero, certainly he was to me within the confines of this episode...
The Professor character was possibly the greatest writing ever in SW. The idea was to make him some ranting angry dinosaur shouting at the moon, yet to my ears he was saying some pretty high level stuff and stuff i was nodding along to!
He made a fantastic speech and at the end a girl in his lecture turns to another and says "what a load of b
ks".That is the point where we the audience are meant to agree with her and sit there in virtuous bliss...
What the writer had him say was about biologically 2 genders male and female, fact, and everything else is construct, true.
So inadvertently a woke writer had found some extremely poignant words to make this character seems like some vile human but he spoke utter sense about hive minds and echo chambers....
And the final slice is that he topped himself as he in his mind had created the monsters that were the killers!
So message being you may have these views but its your fault if people act on them in a terrible way its all your fault just say the right things and pretend stuff and agree with the woke....
I'd quite like the transcripts from the Professor as it was so well written.
Reminded me a bit of Silence of the Lambs, i mean was Hannibal meant to be the hero and the most interesting thing in it?
Or is it that writer's write better for troubling character's.
I don't know, but yes I enjoyed it. And also reminded me how SW of all places was the first mainstream outlet to draw attention to Muslim gangs abusing young girls up North. Still took years after for people to see it was based on truth.
Same way this episode was highlighting how people can lose jobs and titles for not following the woke pretend mob and speaking truth and facts.... although i don't think the writer intended him to be an anti hero, certainly he was to me within the confines of this episode...
I didn't think the older guy was supposed to be held up as a Guy Fawkes to be burned, in the balance of the episode he was supposed to be a somewhat sympathetic character, for example he was the only person within the university to treat Cara as a human being. Just that having big expository speeches like that is awful writing, there must have been minutes of airtime given to people airing their opinions that didn't propel the plot forwards.
But I'm happy that the poster above was able to have a wk along to a BBC dramatic monologue.
But I'm happy that the poster above was able to have a w
k along to a BBC dramatic monologue. ScotHill said:
I didn't think the older guy was supposed to be held up as a Guy Fawkes to be burned, in the balance of the episode he was supposed to be a somewhat sympathetic character, for example he was the only person within the university to treat Cara as a human being. Just that having big expository speeches like that is awful writing, there must have been minutes of airtime given to people airing their opinions that didn't propel the plot forwards.
But I'm happy that the poster above was able to have a wk along to a BBC dramatic monologue.
Did I have an actual wBut I'm happy that the poster above was able to have a w
k along to a BBC dramatic monologue. k over it?Weird thing to say let alone think about, your mind would have to form a visual image of an unknown figure masturbating. That's on you....
He was not meant to be a character the viewer sympathised with, he claimed that there are only two genders, which in woke BBC terms and the average woke viewer is toxic, although it is clearly true...
Edited by Kamov on Wednesday 17th January 21:28
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