Independence Day 2

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Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Saw it last night - 2/5

After the first I rushed back to watch it the next day.....not doing that this time round!

Goldblum is good, as normal - and that's about it. None of the young "stars" have anything like the X factor Will Smith had. The plot is re-hashed Aliens/Star Wars/etc,etc

The CGI is typical 2016/might as well watch a cartoon.

And the plot is daft - and spends the first 20 mins telling us how we used the alien tech from 1996 to create an Earth that has flying trains and laser guns and hover boards (probably) - except we didn't use the tech from the ONLY intact ship from 1996 because some bloke in the Congo kept that for himself with the help of child soldiers and AK47's I assume???

A far more interesting movie would be the film that took place in the 10 years after 1996 when we are told the aliens who got left here after the first movie put up a bit of a fight......not this nonsense.

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Tiggsy said:
except we didn't use the tech from the ONLY intact ship from 1996 because some bloke in the Congo kept that for himself with the help of child soldiers and AK47's I assume???
Is that really one of the plot points? Lol America have invaded countries for far less, like they'd really leave an alien spaceship to rot in the middle of the jungle.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Tiggsy said:
Saw it last night - 2/5

After the first I rushed back to watch it the next day.....not doing that this time round!

Goldblum is good, as normal - and that's about it. None of the young "stars" have anything like the X factor Will Smith had. The plot is re-hashed Aliens/Star Wars/etc,etc

The CGI is typical 2016/might as well watch a cartoon.

And the plot is daft - and spends the first 20 mins telling us how we used the alien tech from 1996 to create an Earth that has flying trains and laser guns and hover boards (probably) - except we didn't use the tech from the ONLY intact ship from 1996 because some bloke in the Congo kept that for himself with the help of child soldiers and AK47's I assume???

A far more interesting movie would be the film that took place in the 10 years after 1996 when we are told the aliens who got left here after the first movie put up a bit of a fight......not this nonsense.
Are you not taking this a little too seriously? I also watched it last night, but I had a very enjoyable couple of brain-dead entertainment. Of course America will save the world again, of course there will be huge holes in the plot, of course some of the acting is just awful, all just like the original which I also enjoyed!

Go and watch it for what it is, a load of entertaining nonsense.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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The Surveyor said:
Are you not taking this a little too seriously? I also watched it last night, but I had a very enjoyable couple of brain-dead entertainment. Of course America will save the world again, of course there will be huge holes in the plot, of course some of the acting is just awful, all just like the original which I also enjoyed!

Go and watch it for what it is, a load of entertaining nonsense.
Just watched it this afternoon, this is how I went in and it's what I got. I only went to kill time and I wouldn't suggest it as an alternative to anything better but it's perfectly fine for what it is.

Guffy

2,311 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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I like a brain-out popcorn movie as much as the next man, but this was corn dog with extra cheese, like really bad smelly cheese, 4/10.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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People are playing down the original - the fact this film got made 20 years later is because the original was SO good.

Will Smith was fresh out of Bad Boys and still Fresh Prince to most - you think any of the "stars" from this one will be as big as he became? Some of his lines are still quoted today.

And the FX were ground breaking - White House being blown up is an iconic scence, 20 years on.

The original was superb nonsense - this was not superb in any way at all!

p1stonhead

25,545 posts

167 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Most reviews I have seen of this can sum the film up as being 'Meh...'.

About right?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Yep. And if it had no link to the original it would be another silly summer flick......but it followed something very good is worse for it.

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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The trailer gives away most of the film, including the big effects.

There is zero chemistry between the male leads. Jessie usher manages the impressive feat of displaying even less charisma than will Smith in after earth.

Star wars had the right idea to mark the rebel and empire laser fire different colours. This was just a mess of dogfights as it was impossible to tell who was shooting at who.

The script manages to be even dumber than a syfy channel special, particularly the closing line.

To be clear, for my sins, I'm a fan of the original, the bayformer films and pacific rim. This was just a lazy rehash that had the potential to be so much better.

2/10

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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I was right with your review until the Transformers bit!

eltawater said:
To be clear, for my sins, I'm a fan of the original, the bayformer films and pacific rim. This was just a lazy rehash that had the potential to be so much better.

2/10

a311

5,803 posts

177 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Went to see it last night. Was never going to live up to the first, was a bit meh. Does OK as a brains out popcorn movie but the plot and acting is weak.

As someone else said a follow up fighting against presumably hundreds of thousands of survivor aliens could have been better.

6/10.

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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m444ttb said:
I was right with your review until the Transformers bit!

eltawater said:
To be clear, for my sins, I'm a fan of the original, the bayformer films and pacific rim. This was just a lazy rehash that had the potential to be so much better.

2/10
I'm a massive transformers fan so I'll take whatever I can get biggrin

I think the biggest difference for me is that in the first one, there was a real sense of fear and peril as the aliens arrived and they then started systemically exterminating humanity city by city.

This time round you really couldn't care less what happens as the aliens can't be arsed to do anything meaningful once they arrive and the countdown is lazily replaced by a crappy depth line display!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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p1stonhead said:
Most reviews I have seen of this can sum the film up as being 'Meh...'.

About right?
It's been panned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3658620/Re...

I'm all for brain out popcorn movies but it appears this is just st. I'll give it a swerve.

valiant

10,219 posts

160 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Pretty disappointed.

Basically it's just a CGI-fest with plot holes so big you could drive a school bus through.

What's worse is that they've left it very open for a third instalment.

Evolved

3,565 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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As expected, the first was rubbidh so didnt expect anything more from the second.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Watched Independence day 2 this afternoon. It was just about watchable to pass the time on a rainy afternoon. Nothing more. I left feeling like I'd watched the prequel to Starship Troopers, but the. Realised that was unkind... to ST!

eltawater said:
I'm a massive transformers fan so I'll take whatever I can get biggrin
Me too, which is why I particularly hate the current film series! The only things I like are Peter Cullen and the desert attack scene in the first film. The rest is dreadful to varying degrees. Give me the original movie any day!

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Evolved said:
As expected, the first was rubbidh so didnt expect anything more from the second.
Back they never forget to put decent actors in, they just mugged and collected $$$, but it makes the viewing more of an event.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Centurion07 said:
I will. thumbup

The first one was as you describe; this one...just looks silly. Reminds of that tosh with Rihanna. Battleship?
I love Battleship, its proper brain out gung ho entertainment.

Mr Roper

13,003 posts

194 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I thought it was ok.....With low expectations it passed as watchable.

Highlight for me was the rum and raison ice cream.

WCZ

10,525 posts

194 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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2/5 for me

gutted.

was a big fan of the original and I didn't even except it to be anything beyond mediocre but it was absolutely awful, the lack of chemistry between some of the new actors really dulled the film