Independence Day 2

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Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I expected it to have a dire plot, weak acting, superb visual effects, loud explosions and cheesey children/dogs in distress with copious amounts of deus ex machina.

My expectations were met in full.

A solid, bog-average 5/10.

Mr Roper

12,996 posts

194 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I remember watching the original like it was yesterday....I was living in Australia at the time and Independence Day was being screened at the local North Sydney Bears Club.
I remember all the hype...The scene where the Sydney Harbour bridge was ablaze saw the entire audience jump and scream for joy. Pretty much pandemonium!! hehe Bloody nutters.


This time round there were 15 people in the cinema...Silence.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Agree with the above; it is basically a rehash of the original, scaled up but minus the charismatic cheesiness of the first film.

  • The one-liners were too forced and poorly delivered
  • The comic relief was obvious and painful to watch (Brent Spiner served no purpose and wasn't needed, even as a joke character)
  • The story transcended fun trash and came across as boring and poorly thought out
  • The young lead actors were crap and seemed to base their character development on the Redwood tree
  • The pacing ws miles off and things were dragged out for no particular reason.

On a positive note, the CGI was good.

Annoyingly, the premise for the film could have actually been very good, but it was poorly executed. It would have been much better if they hadn't tried to clone the first film and instead did something a little different. Potentially have the battle more focused in space, less one sided and more a stalemate etc.


In summary; ID2 is basically Starship Troopers 2, a poor film that tries to emulate its predecessor but misses all of stuff that made the first one magic

HTP99

22,529 posts

140 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Saw it on Saturday; I'm glad myself and the wife have Odeon Limitless as I would have been seriously pissed off at blowing £11.95 each on that garbage.

Opening weekend and the screen was only a third full too.

WCZ

10,516 posts

194 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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also the lines "not so dumb after all are we?" - "you are indeed a remarkable species" was pure cringe

Jacobyte

4,723 posts

242 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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WCZ said:
also the lines "not so dumb after all are we?" - "you are indeed a remarkable species" was pure cringe
Hey, no spoilers!
hehe

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

247 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Just popping in for this...


Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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mark Kermode said

"meh"

I'll catch it on DVD or download

DamienB

1,189 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Should have realised it was going to be a stinker when I sat down with 5 other people in the whole cinema...

And boy is this a stinker. Take effects from 2012, take half the storyline from ID4, remove most of the charismatic actors, get remaining actors to phone performances in, make everything BIGGER and LOUDER and MORE STUPID.

It's not even so bad it's good. It's just bad. And, bizarrely given the amount of destruction, boring as hell.

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Nom de ploom said:
mark Kermode said

"meh"

I'll catch it on DVD or download
To be fair he says that about 95% of mainstream films...

M.

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Oh dear - a shame to read the reviews above. I think i'll wait until it's available for £4.99 on Bluray.

Alias218

1,493 posts

162 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Personally, I liked it. Not a patch on the original, but still good. I did think it was very crowded on screen (how many characters can you stuff into one film?!) and the story did jump from one sub-plot to the next, however enjoyable nonetheless.

Although I didn't like the 'sci-fi-ness' of it (bare with me). The first film was kind of feasible, in a cheesy, squint and you'll see it kind of way, whereas this was just full on sci-fi make believe. Kind of hard to put it in words (I fully appreciate the irony of calling a sci-fi movie too sci-fi) but it was a bit OTT and lost some of the realism I guess. Maybe it was the fact that the world had rebuilt itself, reverse engineered extremely advanced alien tech, incorporated said alien tech into terrestrial technology, made all of this technology widespread and built a moon base all in 20 years. I don't know, maybe I'm a cynic.

Waited 20 years for this one, hopefully ID4:3 doesn't take so long.

5potTurbo

12,522 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Saw trailers for it at the weekend. I don't think I'll bother paying to see it, tbh.
Download for free at some point....

Trevatanus

11,120 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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hmmm.. got a date to see this tonight, her choice frown

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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2/10 from me, didn't even meet my low expectations and was amazingly devoid of fun considering it appears to have been dumbed down for kids. It felt like the actors were talking to green screen characters that weren't there even when they were talking to each other and if the plot to the original was painting by numbers, this was a dot-to-dot. Dragging the Prez out to say some random speech that noone looked like they needed.

Hollywood continually surprises me in its ability to turn box office gold into crap.

Edited by glazbagun on Wednesday 29th June 19:03

jbudgie

8,906 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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""Hollywood continually surprises me in its ability to turn box office gold into crap.""

Yes, they really have no idea at all these day, all they can do is crap sequels, crap sequels --no imagination at all.

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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5potTurbo said:
Saw trailers for it at the weekend. I don't think I'll bother paying to see it, tbh.
Download for free at some point....
It's not even that good. Watch it in a few years when it's on freeview and there's nothing else on. Going to the cinema is increasingly not a cheap thing to do, so I find myself resenting it when it's obvious the film makers didn't even try.

spud989

2,739 posts

180 months

Wednesday 29th June 2016
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Most reviews say it's a bit cack, but Empire give it 4/5. I mostly end up agreeing with Empire, so tend to go along with their judgements, but (despite having not seen it yet) I'm decidedly unsure about that one.

slipstream 1985

12,210 posts

179 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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The Beaver King said:
Agree with the above; it is basically a rehash of the original, scaled up but minus the charismatic cheesiness of the first film.

  • The one-liners were too forced and poorly delivered
  • The comic relief was obvious and painful to watch (Brent Spiner served no purpose and wasn't needed, even as a joke character)
  • The story transcended fun trash and came across as boring and poorly thought out
  • The young lead actors were crap and seemed to base their character development on the Redwood tree
  • The pacing ws miles off and things were dragged out for no particular reason.

On a positive note, the CGI was good.

Annoyingly, the premise for the film could have actually been very good, but it was poorly executed. It would have been much better if they hadn't tried to clone the first film and instead did something a little different. Potentially have the battle more focused in space, less one sided and more a stalemate etc.


In summary; ID2 is basically Starship Troopers 2, a poor film that tries to emulate its predecessor but misses all of stuff that made the first one magic
It really did feel like a B movie tbh

Trevatanus

11,120 posts

150 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Went with low expectations, and was not dissapointed.
Clearly left the door open for ID3 though.

frown