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FourWheelDrift said:
Stolen body regeneration, would have to be the Dr's mother who we saw next to Timothy Dalton when John Simm departed with them to gallifrey if we follow the events as the have happened. However that was the Time War Gallifrey, that has now changed so the time Lords would not have sent the sound of drums message that drove the master mad. He didn't escape the time war at the end if the universe, he hasn't used up regenerations turning into John Simm etc.....
Has it changed?Or was it always the case but the truth about how it played out was only revealed later?
As I see it. When John Hurt's Dr and all the others did their thing they stopped the Dr from sending Gallifrey and the Daleks into the void. When in the void the Time Lords could only get one signal out, the tap tap tap tap that drove the Master completely insane. So with saving Gallifrey, there would be no taps, no Professor Yana, no Prime Minister Master etc. Which kind of makes sense with people conviently "forgetting" aliens, Cybermen and the Dr saving them because the time lines change but those around him still remember.
Ps wibbly wobbly stuff.
Pps in theory if PM master never happened and Gallifrey weren't in the void then Tennant Dr couldn't get poisoned saving Bernard Cribbins and wouldn't have regenerated into a massive chin with floppy hair.
Ppps more wibbly wobbly stuff.
Ps wibbly wobbly stuff.
Pps in theory if PM master never happened and Gallifrey weren't in the void then Tennant Dr couldn't get poisoned saving Bernard Cribbins and wouldn't have regenerated into a massive chin with floppy hair.
Ppps more wibbly wobbly stuff.
Munter said:
heyhomes said:
I thought this was a great episode, one of the best for a long time. That was up until the point the BBC revealed that as Pink used to be a soldier he obviously killed innocent children because that's what most soldiers do
We didn't see the kid in the flashback. He could have been in there waving an AK about and thus not innocent.I have been very negative towards the series.
I personally think last nights was extremely well done. It had a great amount of humanity about it in particular the Doctors linme to Clara about why would she think he cared so little for her was very warm. The episode also touched a nerve with its ideas about death and what is beyond.
I suspect that Danny will be prevented from deleting himself by the afghan / Iraqi lad he killed who is stood just behind him at the very end - his reflection is in the I pad screen.
Missy was wonderful mad as a box of frogs and the best bit of casting Ive seen in Dr Who in ages.
I had really given up on it this year but against the odds it was for me really good.
I personally think last nights was extremely well done. It had a great amount of humanity about it in particular the Doctors linme to Clara about why would she think he cared so little for her was very warm. The episode also touched a nerve with its ideas about death and what is beyond.
I suspect that Danny will be prevented from deleting himself by the afghan / Iraqi lad he killed who is stood just behind him at the very end - his reflection is in the I pad screen.
Missy was wonderful mad as a box of frogs and the best bit of casting Ive seen in Dr Who in ages.
I had really given up on it this year but against the odds it was for me really good.
RegMolehusband said:
I hope Danny presses that delete button, soon.
He only has the illusion of choice - He is already dead and uploaded to 'Cyber'spacekev1974 said:
A little surprised at St. Paul's agreeing to be a key location in a story that questions where exactly the "dead" go next.
Nice reference to a previous appearance for the older fans (like me!)
Silver Smudger said:
RegMolehusband said:
I hope Danny presses that delete button, soon.
He only has the illusion of choice - He is already dead and uploaded to 'Cyber'spaceI wondered if people were being offered the choice because there have been issues in the past with forced deleting of the personality. (The head of Torchwood at Canary Wharf.). Perhaps with Missy's help they developed a virtual reality for the mind where people are given a reality too horrible to bare, so they submit willingly to the process. I'm thinking of The Matrix. The machines have conquered humanity but found it easier to control our minds by creating an illusion of reality.
I look forward to being proved wrong next week.
Butter Face said:
Bullett said:
Very good episode. Quite dark in tone, likes the bits with Missi especially taking the p out of the Dr with that are you sure you don't know who I am?
I enjoyed the 'the doctor looks after me''Doctor who?'
'Doctor Chhhhaaaaannnggggg'
Langweilig said:
Best episode to date. I loved the "We've got Steve Jobs" gag.
I liked the whole "why? because he's an idiot?" and "can you please hurry up otherwise I'm going to hit you with my shoe" conversation. Not usually that many funny bits. I'm getting used to Capaldi now it's almost the end of the series.I thought the CGI Department missed a trick in that last epidose. If a volcano were the only thing that could destroy a TARDIS Key, I would have expected a much larger and more spectacular explosion as the luvly Clara chucked each one in. what we got was more like a pea being dropped into a bowl of soup.
And dxg, thanks for the heads up re The Book Group. I missed a few episodes the first time round, so it was quite nice to reacquaint myself with this excellent series.
And dxg, thanks for the heads up re The Book Group. I missed a few episodes the first time round, so it was quite nice to reacquaint myself with this excellent series.
dxg said:
Mr. Pink (in his lovely pink shirt) clearly felt the kid was innocent otherwise he wouldn't have cried. That whole aspect of episode was clearly chasing Moffat's agenda and was quite jarring in the way in which it didn't fit.
Yes. my point was that of all the plot lines the BBC could have picked for someone ex army to be guilty about, it had to be that he killed a kid somewhere. I'd hoped that we moved beyond the all military are babykillers idea, in fact I find it offensive. Evangelion said:
I thought the CGI Department missed a trick in that last epidose. If a volcano were the only thing that could destroy a TARDIS Key, I would have expected a much larger and more spectacular explosion as the luvly Clara chucked each one in. what we got was more like a pea being dropped into a bowl of soup.
And dxg, thanks for the heads up re The Book Group. I missed a few episodes the first time round, so it was quite nice to reacquaint myself with this excellent series.
I thought it was pure Lord if the Rings plagiarism, with just a sizzle and melt. And dxg, thanks for the heads up re The Book Group. I missed a few episodes the first time round, so it was quite nice to reacquaint myself with this excellent series.
heyhomes said:
I'd hoped that we moved beyond the all military are babykillers idea, in fact I find it offensive.
Sorry but it occurs to me that you're overthinking the incident and reading things into that simply aren't there. Danny killed the kid, end of.
There is nothing in that act to extrapolate out into "all military are babykillers".
I'm not saying it wasn't making a point about how innocents get killed in war but I think you've well and truly overexaggerated the intended inference Moffatt was drawing if you think he's calling all of the British military Baby Killers.
KareemK said:
heyhomes said:
I'd hoped that we moved beyond the all military are babykillers idea, in fact I find it offensive.
Sorry but it occurs to me that you're overthinking the incident and reading things into that simply aren't there. Danny killed the kid, end of.
There is nothing in that act to extrapolate out into "all military are babykillers".
I'm not saying it wasn't making a point about how innocents get killed in war but I think you've well and truly overexaggerated the intended inference Moffatt was drawing if you think he's calling all of the British military Baby Killers.
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