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otolith said:
Pink is, in the theme of the series, a "good man". I can't see them dealing with the killing of the kid anything but sympathetically.
Quite. I think the idea is that killing a child weighed so heavily on his conscience that he gave up soldiering to be a teacher, to try and improve the lives of children as some sort of reparation.The Doctor says he thinks soldiers are terrible. That's because he still thinks of himself as a soldier. Danny is a good man, and one of the threads of the season is the Doctor coming to understand that, and to understand what it means for his feelings towards his previous (and soldierly) regenerations.
davepoth said:
otolith said:
Pink is, in the theme of the series, a "good man". I can't see them dealing with the killing of the kid anything but sympathetically.
Quite. I think the idea is that killing a child weighed so heavily on his conscience that he gave up soldiering to be a teacher, to try and improve the lives of children as some sort of reparation.The Doctor says he thinks soldiers are terrible. That's because he still thinks of himself as a soldier. Danny is a good man, and one of the threads of the season is the Doctor coming to understand that, and to understand what it means for his feelings towards his previous (and soldierly) regenerations.
madbadger said:
I wonder what the PE teacher thing is about.
The Doctor sees Carla as a 'daughter' and Danny is therefore his daughter's boyfriend, a threat to the girl he has to protect, and a threat to his position as the man she turns to in times of need - He needs Danny to prove he is worthy of Carla to get his approval. He shows this jealousy by being a bit petty, deliberately 'forgetting' that he is a maths teacher to suggest that he is less intelligent, while also playing down his importance by pretending not to care about the specifics of his job.
(Yes I do have a younger sister and three daughters, how could you tell?
)davepoth said:
I think the idea is that killing a child weighed so heavily on his conscience that he gave up soldiering to be a teacher, to try and improve the lives of children as some sort of reparation.
This! - Ugly things happen in wars and those who I have met that have been in wars have all been changed by that experience - Killing someone by accident, in war or not, is going to leave a mark - I know someone who went through this (not in a war) and it hung over him for years.This plot-point is not a deliberate slight on all soldiers.
ecsrobin said:
The big thing with pink though is if your good at maths you wouldn't join the army you'd join the Navy or RAF big writing fail there!!
I wonder if Pink is better at sums than you're are at spelling. 
Only joking.What's annoying me is Clara's constant lying. I would have reminded her where the door is by now, and what's with the "I love you" nonsense? She's only known him for about 10 minutes.
mygoldfishbowl said:
... and what's with the "I love you" nonsense? She's only known him for about 10 minutes.
In Pink's world of normal human stuff, a girl who has travelled through time and space might seem very special indeed. And for Clara, she's probably had a lot of time in life or death situations (which he doesn't know about because she's back in time for work in the morning), which have made her bond to the "normal" man she comes home to. A few people are complaining about the afterlife plot of Dark Water.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
KareemK said:
A few people are complaining about the afterlife plot of Dark Water.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
If you'd recently lost someone, even the suggestion that they would be screaming in agony as a result of cremation or medical science experiments would be extremely distressing, especially to bereaved children.http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
Mr GrimNasty said:
KareemK said:
A few people are complaining about the afterlife plot of Dark Water.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
If you'd recently lost someone, even the suggestion that they would be screaming in agony as a result of cremation or medical science experiments would be extremely distressing, especially to bereaved children.http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29908743
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
I'm an adult and my mother was recently cremated but I'm wise enough not to confuse a (science) fictional script with reality and go off on a rant to the beeb. We were after all watching Doctor Who.
As for children watching well the show went out at 8:30pm and frankly the kids who will have been watching I'd like to think would likewise understand that it was a fictional story.
Anyway, Doctor Who is meant to scar you for life, that's its raison d'être
Mr GrimNasty said:
If you'd recently lost someone, even the suggestion that they would be screaming in agony as a result of cremation or medical science experiments would be extremely distressing, especially to bereaved children.
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
Even as a child, I'd have not been distressed by that, it's what we see at that age on DW that scare us, not what we hear.
ali_kat said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
If you'd recently lost someone, even the suggestion that they would be screaming in agony as a result of cremation or medical science experiments would be extremely distressing, especially to bereaved children.
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
That is far more real than all the fake perceived racism outrage everywhere else, or the perceived obsession with denigrating the military.
It is a perfectly legitimate complaint. It made me uneasy - and I NEVER complain.
Even as a child, I'd have not been distressed by that, it's what we see at that age on DW that scare us, not what we hear.
SpudLink said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
... and what's with the "I love you" nonsense? She's only known him for about 10 minutes.
In Pink's world of normal human stuff, a girl who has travelled through time and space might seem very special indeed. And for Clara, she's probably had a lot of time in life or death situations (which he doesn't know about because she's back in time for work in the morning), which have made her bond to the "normal" man she comes home to. 
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